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Old 02-14-2005, 02:22 AM
Willluck Willluck is offline
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Now why can't he have TT? I mean Hero checks to him that right there gives villain a reason to bet w/ his pair of tens and open ended straight draw.
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Old 02-14-2005, 02:23 AM
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He could. I mentioned that in my post. I was just using the holdings that Argus mentioned in his post when I did those calculations. He could have 99 too...although I'm not sure how often 99/TT bets this turn, unless they are representing the king. Therefore they should be discounted as well.
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Old 02-14-2005, 02:33 AM
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The only hands on that long list to which Hero is ahead are AJ and AQ. And since AJ rarely three-bets PF to an UTG raiser, whereas AQ probably three-bets no more than 50% of the time, I think that Hero is a fairly big dog on the turn. The only bright side is that the paired K means he now has four outs against QQ/JJ, although the pot is too small and the combos of better hands to numerous for him to continue.
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Old 02-14-2005, 02:38 AM
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I always three bet PF w/ TT, and it is right to do so
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Old 02-14-2005, 02:38 AM
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You keep saying that hero is a big dog...but are not addressing the relevant question....is he more than a 3.35:1 dog on average? These are his effective odds to call down. The answer is no. If you want to propose a range of hands (discounted for average frequency a party player 3bets with it, bets flop, and bets turn) where hero is more than a 3.35:1 dog then we have something to discuss.
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Old 02-14-2005, 02:38 AM
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I always three bet PF w/ TT, and it is right to do so; why doesn't he have that?
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