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View Poll Results: I do/do not data mine at PP 15/30 and I think it is ______.
I data mine and I think it's crucial to my game. (table selection/other intangibles) 17 20.00%
I data mine and I think it's worth a BB or two per session 21 24.71%
I data mine and I think it's worth a BB or two per month. 7 8.24%
I don't data mine because I think it is not useful. 9 10.59%
I do not data mine because I don't think it's time efficient.(playing is more +EV than data mining+playing, but data mining is useful) 31 36.47%
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Old 02-13-2005, 07:06 AM
Michael Davis Michael Davis is offline
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Default Re: Who raises AJ and KQ UTG

AJ has quite a lot of value on weak flops. KQ, not so much. KQ is much tougher to play well.

-Michael
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Old 02-13-2005, 07:16 AM
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Default Re: Who raises AJ and KQ UTG

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I dont raise with either UTG

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Any reason?

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Im also a winning player who does quite well but unfortunately doest have PT

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Any reason?

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Look if you want to raise with KQ or AJ UTG thats fine

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I am happy that you are fine with my decision to raise AJ and KQ UTG.

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Im just wondering what the hell you do when reraised ?? Is it an insta muck?? Is it an insta flop bluff on a ragged flop??

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No, few things in poker are an insta-anything. If I'm 3 bet or whiff the flop its insta-make poker decisions.

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Your out of position

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This makes those poker decisions harder.

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[you]may have several callers..Id imagine your image would be pretty LAG if you are raising frequently in all positions.

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these are all fairly hypothetical statements so I suppose there is little I can say other than, "yes." I also may flop the nuts or do one af a great many other things.

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THE BEST ? WOULD BE DO YOU RAISE WITH 88-99-1010 UTG.

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To be honest I don't think any of these preflop polls would be interesting because they end up devoting too much energy to stuff of too little importance.

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Remeber these can flop much harder than KQ and AJ(barring the freak straights) and actually have value on weak flops.

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This seems entirely subjective. What is flopping harder? Sets I guess, but its all pretty relative to the players and action.
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Old 02-13-2005, 07:16 AM
Nick C Nick C is offline
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Default Re: Who raises AJ and KQ UTG

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AJ has quite a lot of value on weak flops. KQ, not so much. KQ is much tougher to play well.

-Michael

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Yeah, I'll admit, this is the case -- especially when playing against people who cold-call with ace-rag.

I can't really explain why I prefer KQo.

But I'm not crazy about either hand, actually. I sometimes feel like I'm raising out of obligation, when I have AJo or KQo in EP.

Once I got AJo what seemed like four times in a row when UTG. I was sick of the hand, so I just folded it.

But I will admit it was a mistake.
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Old 02-13-2005, 07:30 AM
private joker private joker is offline
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Default Re: Who raises AJ and KQ UTG

I have 16k hands or so of Party 2/4 in my PT and have gotten AJo 129 times. I raise with it from any position except the blinds unless the pot has already been raised, in which case I fold it. From UTG, where my PFR is 100%, I am winning 0.58bb/100 with it (and 0.52 overall).

I've had KQo 162 times, but only twice UTG -- I raised it both times and lost both hands. Overall I am winning with that hand at 0.31bb/100.

I will keep raising these guys. I'm also notoriously weak PF. My PFR overall is only 7.6, a number I am trying to bring up.
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Old 02-13-2005, 07:59 AM
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Default Re: Who raises AJ and KQ UTG

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From UTG, where my PFR is 100%

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What about this hand? I ask because you say your PFR UTG is 100%, but also when I read this hand earlier today I wondered about the limp.
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Old 02-13-2005, 08:13 AM
private joker private joker is offline
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From UTG, where my PFR is 100%

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What about this hand? I ask because you say your PFR UTG is 100%, but also when I read this hand earlier today I wondered about the limp.

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Read closer. My PFR with AJo is 100% UTG. Meaning I've raised it every time. Not that I raise every single hand I ever get UTG.
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Old 02-13-2005, 11:43 AM
SinCityGuy SinCityGuy is offline
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Default Re: Who raises AJ and KQ UTG

In most games, I don't think you give up much by folding AJo and KQo UTG.

Instead of worrying about increasing the number of hands that you play UTG, focus more on playing more hands in LP and improving your post-flop play.
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Old 02-13-2005, 12:41 PM
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Default Re: Who raises AJ and KQ UTG

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From UTG, where my PFR is 100%

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What about this hand? I ask because you say your PFR UTG is 100%, but also when I read this hand earlier today I wondered about the limp.

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Read closer. My PFR with AJo is 100% UTG. Meaning I've raised it every time. Not that I raise every single hand I ever get UTG.

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That would be pretty sick if you raised EVERY hand UTG on Party..... loses the effect of the straddle.

Freakin
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Old 02-13-2005, 03:57 PM
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Default Re: Who raises AJ and KQ UTG

I suspected that this would be your reply, but the statement was ambiguous and wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something. Thanks.
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