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Old 02-13-2005, 04:30 AM
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Default Re: Flopped overcards with nut straight draw, good play here?

What? That 4 is a diamond, isn't it? You just folded a nut flush draw?
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Old 02-13-2005, 04:30 AM
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Default Re: Flopped overcards with nut straight draw, good play here?

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In the end BB ended up cold calling and MP1 3-bet, which was pretty confusing given the preflop action. I probably should have let it go after the 3 bet, but on the turn I have odds to keep drawing to only the straight, right?

Here's the whole hand:

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, MP1 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, BB calls.

Turn: (9.25 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Hero calls, BB calls.

River: (12.25 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Hero folds, BB calls.

Final Pot: 14.25 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has As 2s (high card, ace).
MP1 has Js Qs (two pair, queens and jacks).
Outcome: MP1 wins 14.25 BB. </font>

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Talk about irony. To be totally honest, that's what I had MP1 on reading the hand history a second time. I originally thought MP1 raised pre-flop.

Question is: Is mp1's play - or + EV?
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Old 02-13-2005, 04:35 AM
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Default Re: Flopped overcards with nut straight draw, good play here?

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What? That 4 is a diamond, isn't it? You just folded a nut flush draw?

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The 4d came on the river.
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Old 02-13-2005, 04:35 AM
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Default Re: Flopped overcards with nut straight draw, good play here?

Behold the power of QJs
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Old 02-13-2005, 04:39 AM
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Default Re: Flopped overcards with nut straight draw, good play here?

NO DROP THAT
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Old 02-13-2005, 04:41 AM
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Default Re: Flopped overcards with nut straight draw, good play here?

Ok ok ok. [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]
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Old 02-13-2005, 04:51 AM
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Default Re: Flopped overcards with nut straight draw, good play here?

I'd have been happy if that 4 came on the turn. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Thanks for the input everyone.
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