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Old 02-11-2005, 05:09 PM
SomethingClever SomethingClever is offline
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Default Re: I feel like I\'m missing something about these 2001fps

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$20

not too shabby.
You've got GOOT garage-sale skillz!!

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You should see my TV. I sold the 19" Sony I'd had since 8th grade for $35. It was badly magnetized and the coaxial input didn't work.

Then I got a 32" JVC in perfect condition from some rich lady up in the burbs for $20.

PWND!!!!!!!!!
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Old 02-11-2005, 05:35 PM
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Do these 2001FPs have a decent refresh rate if one wanted to play action games, watch DVDs etc. as well as playing poker?

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16ms. In other words, yes. You don't find much better (or need it).

EDIT: Just appending to say LCDs are not as desirable as CRTs to gamers as they usually lack the color depth that CRTs possess (darks are not usually as dark as they should be). The same is true of the 2001FP, but its much better than most LCDs.

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A number of new smaller LCDs are coming out w/ refresh rates under 10ms. The viewsonics I'm using right now at work (yeah, they gave me multi-mon) are 8.5ms. Some people are crazy with their specifications and say that they can't play games on a 16ms, just like they can't play FPS on teh internet on less than an OC-48. I doubt the average person will have a problem w/ games or DVDs. But Buster might find something lacking... he's picky like that.

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Old 02-11-2005, 06:24 PM
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Default Re: I feel like I\'m missing something about these 2001fps

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Do these 2001FPs have a decent refresh rate if one wanted to play action games, watch DVDs etc. as well as playing poker?

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16ms. In other words, yes. You don't find much better (or need it).

EDIT: Just appending to say LCDs are not as desirable as CRTs to gamers as they usually lack the color depth that CRTs possess (darks are not usually as dark as they should be). The same is true of the 2001FP, but its much better than most LCDs.

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A number of new smaller LCDs are coming out w/ refresh rates under 10ms. The viewsonics I'm using right now at work (yeah, they gave me multi-mon) are 8.5ms. Some people are crazy with their specifications and say that they can't play games on a 16ms, just like they can't play FPS on teh internet on less than an OC-48. I doubt the average person will have a problem w/ games or DVDs. But Buster might find something lacking... he's picky like that.

Freakin(temp)

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Yeah there are smaller monitors with faster response times... but they're just that, smaller.

The point of the 2001fp isn't that it's the greatest monitor ever. It's that it provides a pretty amazing all-inclusive LCD for a pretty cheap price. True, you can get a CRT for much cheaper... but it's a CRT. It will weigh 70 pounds, take up a huge desk footprint, and likely have a smaller viewable size. A single CRT wouldn't even fit on my "desk," but I've got 2 2001fp's here.

For under $600 you get a 20 inch, 1600x1200 LCD, with 16 ms response time, with a nice screen (same panel as the Apple Cinema displays), tons of input options (analog, DVI, S-vid, composite), a really nice counterweighted stand with adjustable height and tilt, PIP, and a USB hub.

And for those of you wanting the next big thing, dell is about to release the 2405fp, a 24 inch LCD with 1900x1200 resolution. It will probably retail around $1200.
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Old 02-11-2005, 06:34 PM
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*jaw drops*
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Old 02-11-2005, 06:35 PM
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Default Re: I feel like I\'m missing something about these 2001fps

I have a 19" CRT that does 1600 x 1200 as my second monitor and only use it to surf the net when I'm four tabling on the 2001fp. There is no question the 2001fp is easier on my eyes. I prefer gaming on my 2001fp too. Even though the black isn't as black as the CRT black, it's still a better picture with crisper resolution.
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Old 02-11-2005, 06:45 PM
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$1200 is really just a (optemistic) guess. $1500 is probably more realistic. However, there is no question that the dell will undercut the 243T, which dell has for sale right now at $1799. So I'm thinking $1500 msrp, with some special grand release coupons will make it $1200ish.
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Old 02-11-2005, 07:48 PM
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Can you game on the LCDs? I thought you couldn't so I have never even thought about changing out of my Viewsonic P95f CRT.
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Old 02-11-2005, 08:37 PM
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I am probably the only "serious" 2+2'er who actually doesn't have one.

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nah. i use a laptop w/ 1280x800. overlap baby.
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Old 02-14-2005, 04:27 PM
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And for those of you wanting the next big thing, dell is about to release the 2405fp, a 24 inch LCD with 1900x1200 resolution. It will probably retail around $1200.

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Godamn I'm good.

http://home.businesswire.com/portal/...mp;newsLang=en

Technical specifications of the Dell UltraSharp 2405FPW include:
-- Native Resolution: 1920 x 1200 (WUXGA+) @ 60Hz(b)
-- Response Time (typical): 12ms grey-to-grey(c), 16ms
black-to-white
-- Contrast Ratio: 1,000:1
-- Brightness (typical): 500 nits
-- Aspect Ratio: 16:10
-- Number of Colors: 16.7 Million
-- Horizontal/Vertical Viewing Angle (typical): +/-89 degrees
-- Lift distance: 3.5 inches
-- Tilt angle: -5 to +20 degrees
-- Swivel: 90 degrees (45 degrees left and right)
-- Memory Card Formats Supported: CompactFlash I/II, Secure
Digital (SD), Mini SD, MultiMedia Card, SmartMedia, Memory
Stick, Memory Stick Pro, IBM Microdrive
-- Inputs: Analog (VGA)/Digital
(DVI)(e)/S-Video/Composite/Component
-- Dimensions (HxWxD): 21.5" x 22.0" x 9.0"
-- Weight: 29.1 lb.

$1199, available next month.
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Old 02-14-2005, 04:31 PM
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Godamn I'm good.

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Those were my exact thoughts when I saw the debut price... Except that I didn't remember your name, and didn't want to dig up an old post to find out. My exact thought process was "Man, that guy from the 2001fp thread was dead on."

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