question on vpip

syphlix · #1 02-10-2005, 03:48 PM

quick question on vpip... it seems that most of the players here have vpip in the range of 25-30 or so...

mine is only 18% after.. 2000 hands or so... i know... small samples... but it seems a significant difference to me...

i've been using http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...amp;PHPSESSID= for my starting hands... is this good?... if not.. where should i be looking to play more hands?...

or should i just be fine w/ this low vpip anyways since i'm still not quite sure what i'm doing in shorthanded play post-flop...

EvanJC · #2 02-10-2005, 03:52 PM

i think your estimate that most are around 25-30 vpip is false. i try to keep mine around 22-23/12-14 pfr, and that might even be a little too loose depending on what level you're talking about.

craniac24 · #3 02-10-2005, 03:55 PM

I think you're playing way too tight. My VPIP in SH games is right around 31%. Over 100,000 hands I'm at 2.5BB/100.

Loosen up son.

rory · #4 02-10-2005, 04:11 PM

I am at like 20.

MAxx · #5 02-10-2005, 04:12 PM

21-22 here

Grisgra · #6 02-10-2005, 04:19 PM

That chart doesn't have the SB or BB in it, and you'll see a lot of variation between players in how tight/loose they are. Rory will fold in the SB with just about any two cards [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. I, on the other hand, will just about play AnyTwoSooted.

Loose vs tight play from the blinds is good for at least 2-3% VP$IP.

EvanJC · #7 02-10-2005, 04:27 PM

no.

Grisgra · #8 02-10-2005, 04:33 PM

If he's not filtering by # players-in-hand (e.g., this is 2-6 players), I can see doing just fine with a VP$IP of 31% in the 1/2 games. Not for SH newbies, admittedly.

cab4656 · #9 02-10-2005, 05:21 PM

My VPIP is 19 after 3.5k hands. My PFR is 15.

I had a 15 VPIP with a 9 PFR at 3/6 full, which was also tighter than most, but not terrible.

I am gonna have to use that starting hand chart to see if I can raise it.

Edit: Just took a look at that chart. Reraise with AJ against a raise from any position? That's something I hadn't been doing. Much less the recommended reraises with KQ, AT, and other hands where specified. 6-max will be fun now. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

Rudis · #10 02-10-2005, 05:52 PM

Could someone explain to me, just what does vpip say. I know what it means, but not what it MEANS.
I have always used flop seen and when fold no fold and pfr...