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Old 02-07-2005, 04:30 PM
admiralfluff admiralfluff is offline
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Default 33 set on straightish board

villain is 50/6 in 20 hands, no specific reads.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB folds, UTG calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, MP1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG caps</font>, Hero calls.

River: (13.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls.

Final Pot: 15.50 BB
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Old 02-07-2005, 04:39 PM
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Default Re: 33 set on straightish board

Looks good.
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Old 02-07-2005, 04:45 PM
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Default Re: 33 set on straightish board

I would lead this flop. I know you want to make people pay for their draws, but I think there is a good chance this hand gets raised after you lead from someone holding an A. If that happens you can 3bet, trapping any callers for one bet +2 more cold.

A second consideration is that there is a fairly substantial chance this flop gets checked through, as it is a low rainbow board in a relatively small pot. You don't want that in the first place, and it puts you in a very difficult spot when an A or 6 hits as the turn.

Besides the flop I think your line is fine, but I would check/call the river if the board hadn't paired.
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Old 02-07-2005, 05:49 PM
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Default Re: 33 set on straightish board

Dooh, ya lead the flop. I overlooked that.
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Old 02-07-2005, 05:57 PM
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Default Re: 33 set on straightish board

given the way the table had been playing I would have been very surprised if this flop checked through. I thought that the added benefits of possibly making an A, 5, or 6 face 2 cold would outweigh the loss from this small chance. Does anyone agree with the check raise here, or can someone go a little more in depth as to why it is incorrect? thanks
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Old 02-07-2005, 06:44 PM
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Default Re: 33 set on straightish board

I don't think a 5 ever folds this flop at PP 2/4, an A won't fold often dunno about the 6 so to me it's a good reason to lead/3bet flop
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Old 02-07-2005, 07:11 PM
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Default Re: 33 set on straightish board

First point is that I agree you want to make people drawing to that straight pay as much as possible, my problem is that I am just unaware of table conditions that would really qualify going for a checkraise in this spot. At a passive table it seems like you should bet so the low board isn't checked through. At an aggressive table you should bet so that you have a chance to 3 bet and charge those draws even more. At a table somewhere in the middle I prefer the option that allows for a 3 bet to the option that doesn't.
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Old 02-07-2005, 07:13 PM
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Default Re: 33 set on straightish board

Having it get checked through on the flop (while tragic) is really the secondary consideration here. I just feel like a bet from the small blind in this hand with that board is just asking for a raise somewhere, and you can take advantage of that with a 3bet.
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