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Old 02-04-2005, 01:00 AM
me454555 me454555 is offline
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Default Re: Do you ever fold this river?

On the flop he's got a gutshot in addition to his A, why would you fold that for 1 bet in a big pot?
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Old 02-04-2005, 01:18 PM
DiceyPlay DiceyPlay is offline
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Thanks for all the replies. I'm glad I posted this hand. I thought it was more clear cut and that I played it correctly - wrong. I should have raised the flop - I was last to act. I definitely start playing timidly when running bad [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Big Blind had KK and took it down.
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Old 02-05-2005, 01:41 AM
elysium elysium is offline
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Default Re: Do you ever fold this river?

hi me

i know that is what it looks like, but no. that's not a gutshot. it's a one card inside draw. if it was a true gutshot, when it completes it wouldn't be so obvious. the implied odds are one of the reasons gutshots are sometimes worth the effort. this is a one card draw inside draw. although even with runner, runner backdoor flush potential on the flop, the call, or worse, raise is borderline at best with all those opponents in there. if it sounds like a simple extra backdoor out doesn't really matter, well, it doesn't. it comes to about 1.5 outs in the grand scheme of things. it just barely makes this hand ev+ by about 0.05%. if that comes to a shiny thin post silver years dime in a 20-40, i will kiss my wallet if not my [self censored; beat you to it matt].
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Old 02-05-2005, 02:10 AM
oneeyedjackz oneeyedjackz is offline
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Default Re: Do you ever fold this river?

you should have folded long ago to evade these types of situations.
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