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Old 02-04-2005, 06:40 PM
jedi jedi is offline
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Default Re: Would you call this river bet?

I would have made a bet on the turn in an ill-advised attempt at taking the pot, but since you didn't do that I fold.

I'll be risking 300 in a 360 pot with 2 left to act behind me. There are better situations than this one.
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Old 02-04-2005, 06:46 PM
Scuba Chuck Scuba Chuck is offline
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Default Re: Would you call this river bet?

Yeah, the player reminded me of myself before I read that book. That was something I used to do.
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Old 02-04-2005, 06:50 PM
adanthar adanthar is offline
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Default Re: Would you call this river bet?

If the river card was the 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], you were in last position and this was a $200 against a specific opponent I would say 'nice call'.

In this <$50 tourney with the running flush and two people behind you this is really bad x47.

BTW, betting 30-40 on the turn is a decent play since even at this limit 66 will often fold.
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Old 02-04-2005, 08:14 PM
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Default Re: Would you call this river bet?

i dont understand why this would be a better call at a higher buyin. I don't think a $200 player is more likely to make this kind of ridiculous overbet bluff for a meaningless pot.
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Old 02-04-2005, 08:32 PM
stillnotking stillnotking is offline
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Default Re: Would you call this river bet?

You should call to see exactly how big his flush is, thus gaining valuable information.
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Old 02-04-2005, 09:00 PM
Irieguy Irieguy is offline
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Default Re: Would you call this river bet?

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Irie, I deeply respect your opinion.

One question that I have to you is in regards to the 2+2 book Psychology of Poker. Have you read it? It is in direct conflict to your Caro comments. In this book, it states that its profitable to call bets against LAPs even if its with bottom pair.

OK, now that it's post play, it seems very obvious this applies far more to a ring game than an SnG. Sometimes as you're *learning* the game, situations arise where you tend to think you notice things. So you test them. Regardless if I am correct, this is not the right situation to apply. I know now.

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I have read it. The whole book pertains only to ring games. Why does that make such a difference? I believe the psychology of SNGs are different.

Even if it wasn't, the concept that's most important I think is to imagine that a LAG was making a play at you in a $1-2 game for half your stack. You know that in 5 minutes the casino is going to double the stakes, and the LAG isn't going anywhere. Would that affect your decision? What if he only bet 1% of your stack on the end? Would you fold if you thought it was close?

Irieguy
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Old 02-04-2005, 09:55 PM
adanthar adanthar is offline
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Default Re: Would you call this river bet?

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i dont understand why this would be a better call at a higher buyin. I don't think a $200 player is more likely to make this kind of ridiculous overbet bluff for a meaningless pot.

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Some do. Others have quads. Notes help.
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Old 02-04-2005, 11:27 PM
lorinda lorinda is offline
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Default Re: Would you call this river bet?

Not neccessarily this hand, but at the higher buyin you have to push small edges to get your ROI above 0.

At this limit there is simply no need, long term this move will take you away from the theoretical maximum, not towards it.

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