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Old 02-02-2005, 11:30 PM
BigD226 BigD226 is offline
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Default First post of a hand: bad play on turn/river?

Once again, this is my first time posting a hand...so try to go easy on me [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

I suspected UTG+1 had JJ or KK...should I have bet out the turn instead? Or checked/called the river?

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Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 caps</font>, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, CO calls, Hero calls, BB calls.

Flop: (22 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, MP3 folds, CO calls, Hero calls, BB calls.

Turn: (13 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, CO folds, Hero calls, BB calls.

River: (16 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 20 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Qs As (one pair, queens).
UTG+1 has Ks Kh (one pair, kings).
Outcome: UTG+1 wins 20 BB. </font>
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Old 02-02-2005, 11:36 PM
DeadManJay DeadManJay is offline
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Default Re: First post of a hand: bad play on turn/river?

Fold the turn here. With that many people in, odds are that even if you hit high pair it won't be good enough to take the pot.
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Old 02-02-2005, 11:39 PM
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Default Re: First post of a hand: bad play on turn/river?

I don't 3-bet AQs here preflop.

I'd check-fold the turn. You've got very few outs and none of them are clean.

Oh, and don't post results.
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Old 02-02-2005, 11:46 PM
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Default Re: First post of a hand: bad play on turn/river?

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I don't 3-bet AQs here preflop.

I'd check-fold the turn. You've got very few outs and none of them are clean.

Oh, and don't post results.

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Old 02-03-2005, 12:02 AM
BigD226 BigD226 is offline
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Ed Miller's chart for loose games suggests 3-betting this from the small blind, although I do see it might be questionable. Any other opinions on this?
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Old 02-03-2005, 12:04 AM
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Default Re: First post of a hand: bad play on turn/river?

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Ed Miller's chart for loose games suggests 3-betting this from the small blind, although I do see it might be questionable. Any other opinions on this?

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A high % of online games fall into the tight category.
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Old 02-03-2005, 12:07 AM
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Default Re: First post of a hand: bad play on turn/river?

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Ed Miller's chart for loose games suggests 3-betting this from the small blind

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Was your table regularly having 6-8 players see the flop?
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Old 02-03-2005, 12:10 AM
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Default Re: First post of a hand: bad play on turn/river?

I had been there about 2 orbits when this hand came up, and at least 5 were seeing the flop every time.
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Old 02-03-2005, 01:01 AM
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Default Re: First post of a hand: bad play on turn/river?

dude. 3 people cold called in between. that's pretty loose.
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