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Old 02-02-2005, 09:50 PM
Glintir Glintir is offline
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Default Glin\'s Big Win -- Post 2, Final Table [LONG]

So here's the final table. This gets long and boring. Thing is they fella I get heads up against is willing to let me blind him out. So I decided to do just that. I felt varying my play could give him a shot to get out of the hole.


Stack report:
Seat 1: 11154
Seat 2: 16574
Seat 3: 34019
Seat 4: 75699 (tighty)
Seat 5: 60093
Seat 6: 109495 (me)
Seat 7: 27011
Seat 8: 44069
Seat 9: 31726
Seat 10: 23660 (admitted new guy)

Hand 207: 1500-3000 on button. 9 handed.
P - AcKc - MP3 bets 6000. I raise to 20000. MP3 goes all-in. I call.
F - KhTc7s
T - 4h
R - Ks
Showdown: AhQh vs AcKc. I win.
Stack: 142014

Hand 208: 1500-3000 in CO. 8 handed.
P - Th3h - UTG+1 bets 11154 all in. I call. BB calls.
F - Qs5h4d - checked around.
T - 7c - checked around
R - Jc - checked around.
Showdown: 99 vs AdQh vs T3h. AQ wins.
Stack: 130860

Hand 210: 1500-3000 in MP1. 8 handed.
P - Kd2d - I open for 8000. Steal blinds.
Stack: 135360

Hand 211: 1500-3000 UTG+1. 8 handed.
P - 3s3h - I limp. MP2 raises to 6255 all in. CO calls. I call.
F - AhJs3c - I bet 15000. UTG+1 raises to 28741 all in. I call.
T - 6s
R - Qc
Showdown: AcTs vs 33 vs KcJc. I win.
Stack: 180841

Stack report:
Seat 1: 31962
Seat 2: 34648
Seat 4: 119218 (tighty)
Seat 6: 180841 (me)
Seat 7: 22511
Seat 10: 44320 (admitted new guy)

Hand 213: 1500-3000 in BB. 6 handed.
P - Ac6s - Button opens for 12137 all in. I call.
F - 9h8h2s
T - 5h
R - 6d
Showdown: 33 vs A6. I win.
Stack: 194478

Stack report:
Seat 1: 31962
Seat 4: 110718 (tighty)
Seat 6: 194478 (me)
Seat 7: 52022
Seat 10: 44320 (admitted new guy)

Hand 214: 1500-3000 in SB. 5 handed.
P - KcQs - UTG limps. I complete. BB checks.
F - Tc5s2c - checked around.
T - 2d - checked around.
R - 4c - checked around.
Showdown: KQ vs K6 vs A6. A6 (UTG) wins.

Hand 219, Down to 4.

Stack report:
Seat 1: 31962
Seat 4: 114718 (tighty)
Seat 6: 184478 (me)
Seat 10: 102342 (admitted new guy)

Hand 223: 2000-4000 in BB. 4 handed.
P - 7c6c - SB completes. I check.
F - Kc9c3d - SB bets 10000. I call.
T - Jc - SB checks. I bet 10000. SB folds.
Stack: 198478
Note: I actually told him not to bet on the turn when he paused to think. I like how tight he is and don't
want to bust him. He's helpful in getting rid of the other two, and easy to predict.

Hand 224: 2000-4000 in SB. 4 handed.
P - 3d2c - I complete. BB checks.
F - 9d4s4h - checked around
T - 6c - checked around
R - 7h - checked around
Showdown: 32 vs K2. K2 wins.
Stack: 194478
Note: I'd hoped for a scarier flop to try to steal it, but no such luck. Better he should win a small pot.

Hand 228: 2000-4000 in SB. 4 handed.
P - AcTh - folded to me. I bet 10000. Steal BB.
Stack: 194478

Hand 229: 2000-4000 on button. 4 handed.
P - AdQs - CO limps. I raise to 10000. CO calls.
F - QhJh3h - CO bets 4000. I call.
T - 5h - Co bets 25000. I fold.
Stack: 180478

Hand 231: 2000-4000 in BB. 4 handed.
P - Ts6s - Button pushes (9962). I call.
F - JsTh3h
T - 4d
R - 9c
Showdown: AK vs T6. I win.
Stack: 192440

Stack report:
Seat 4: 134718 (tighty)
Seat 6: 192440 (me)
Seat 10: 106342 (admitted new guy)

Hand 232: 2000-4000 in SB. 3 handed.
P - Qc8d - I complete. BB checks.
F - Kd8c5s - I bet 4000. BB raises to 8000. I call.
T - Ad - I check. BB bets 8000. I fold.
Stack: 180440

Hand 234: 2000-4000 in BB. 3 handed.
P - Th8h - UTG calls. SB folds. I check.
F - Qc7h5s - I check. UTG Bets 4000. I fold.
Stack: 176440

Hand 235: 2000-4000 in SB. 3 handed.
P - Jh5s - UTG folds. I raise to 10000. BB calls.
F - AdAhKh - Checked around.
T - Qd - I check. BB bets 25k. I fold.
Stack: 166440

Hand 237: 2000-4000 in BB. 3 handed.
P - 6s5s - UTG limps. SB completes. I check.
F - JdTs5d - SB checks. I bet 8100. UTG calls.
T - Jc - I check. UTG bets 8000. I fold.
Stack: 154340
Note: This hand I decided to continue a pattern. The fella to my left likes to be aggressive. I've had to fold to
him 3 times before this hand, because I felt I didn't lead. So now I'm letting it continue even though I
might have him here. I want to embolden him, and break him off. I want him to go first, so I go heads up
against tighty. As of now new guy has caught up to me chip wise.

Hand 238: 3000-6000 in SB. 3 handed.
P - Js7c - UTG folds. I complete. BB checks.
F - Qc4d4c - I check. BB bets. I fold.
Stack: 148340

Hand 239: 3000-6000 UTG. 3 handed.
P - QsJd - I bet 18k. Steal Blinds.
Stack: 157340

Hand 240: 3000-6000 in BB. 3 handed.
P - Td7h - UTG folds. SB completes. I check.
F - Jh4c2c - SB bets 6k, I fold.
Stack: 151340

Hand 241: 3000-6000 in SB. 3 handed.
P - Jd2d - UTG folds. I rase to 13k. BB calls.
F - 6s2h2c - I bet 6k. BB calls.
T - Qs - I bet 18k. BB calls.
R - Th - I bet push (114340). BB folds.
Stack: 188340
Note: And now I push back hard. Didn't think he'd call, but why not. Did NOT want to show my hand down.

Hand 242: 3000-6000 UTG. 3 handed.
P - Qs8s - I bet 18k. Steal Blinds.
Stack: 197340

hand 243: 3000-6000 in BB. 3 handed.
P - 9d7c - UTG folds. SB completes. I check.
F - AdKd5c - checked around.
T - 8d - Sb bets 12k. I fold.
Stack: 191340

Hand 244: 3000-6000 in SB. 3 handed.
P - AcKd - UTG folds. I rase to 18k. BB folds.
Stack: 197340

Hand 246: 3000-6000 in BB. 3 handed.
P - 7d6d - UTG limps. SB completes. I check.
F - Js9s5c - SB checks. I bet 6k. All fold.
Stack: 209340

Hand 247: 3000-6000 in SB. 3 handed.
P - QhQd - UTG folds. I rase to 18k. BB calls.
F - 9c6d5h - I bet 10k. BB calls.
T - Ad - I check. BB bets 12k. I call.
R - 5c - checked around.
Showdown: QQ vs 88. I win.
Stack: 249340
Note: Mutter. Stupid ace.

Hand 249: 3000-6000 in BB. 3 handed.
P - Qs7c - UTG folds. SB completes. I raise to 16k. SB calls.
F - 7d3d2c - SB checks. I push. He folds.
Stack: 265340
Note: NO DRAWING! I'm getting bored. Somethings got to give.

Stack report:
Seat 4: 106718 (tighty)
Seat 6: 265340 (me)
Seat 10: 61442 (new guy)

Hand 250: 3000-6000 in SB. 3 handed.
P - Jh7c - UTG limps. I complete. BB checks.
F - Qd5d5h - I check. BB checks. SB bets 6k. I fold.
Stack: 259340

Hand 251: 3000-6000 UTG. 3 handed.
P - Td5d - I limp. SB raises to 12k. BB calls. I call.
F - KcTc3c - SB pushes for 43442. I fold.
Stack: 247340

Hand 252: 3000-6000 in BB. 3 handed.
P - Qs3s - UTG folds. SB completes. I check.
F - 7d3h2d - SB checks. I bet 10k. SB calls.
T - 7h - checked around.
R - Tc - checked around.
Showdown: 5s4s vs Qs3s. I win.
Stack: 263340

Hand 253: 3000-6000 in SB. 3 handed.
P - Kh9d - UTG folds. I raise to 18k. BB calls.
F - 8c5d2h - checked around.
T - 4s - I bet 12k. BB folds.
Stack: 281340

Hand 257: 3000-6000 UTG. 3 handed.
P - 3c3h - I limp. SB raises to 12k. BB folds. I call.
F - 6h4c2c - SB bets 6k. I call.
T - As - SB bets 12k. I fold.
Stack: 263340

Hand 259: 3000-6000 in SB. 3 handed.
P - QsJh - UTG limps. I raise to 18k. BB folds. UTG calls.
F - Ad9h4c - checked around.
T - Ah - checked around.
R - 2s - I bet 12k. UTG calls.
Showdown: QJ vs KQ. He wins.
Stack: 236340

Stack report:
Seat 4: 123718 (tighty)
Seat 6: 236340 (me)
Seat 10: 73442 (new guy)

Hand 264: 3000-6000 in BB. 3 handed.
P - Kd5d - SB raises to 12k. I call.
F - KsJs6d - SB bets 6k. I raise to 20k. SB folds.
Stack: 254340

Hand 265: 3000-6000 in SB. 3 handed.
P - AcKh - UTG Folds. I raise to 18k. BB calls.
F - KsTs7d - I bet 20k. BB calls.
T - Qc - I bet 106224. BB folds.
Stack: 292340

Hand 266: 3000-6000 UTG. 3 handed.
P - QdJs - I raise to 18k. Steal blinds.
Stack: 301340

Stack report:
Seat 4: 96718 (tighty)
Seat 6: 304340 (me)
Seat 10: 32442 (new guy)

Hand 268: 3000-6000 in SB. 3 handed.
P - Qh5d - UTG folds. I raise to 13k. BB calls.
F - 5s4s2s - I bet 20500. BB folds.
Stack: 317340

Hand 271: Seat 10 Eliminated. Heads UP.

Stack report:
Seat 4: 116160 (tighty)
Seat 6: 317340 (me)

Blinds now 4000-8000

Hand 272: 3s2c - I bet. He Folds.
Stack: 325340

Hand 273: Folded to me.
stack: 329340

Hand 274:
P - Jc8d - I complete. He checks.
F - Ah8h7d - He checks. I bet 10k. He folds.
Stack: 337340

Hand 275: folded to me
stack: 341340

Hand 276:
P - 3d3s - I complete. He raises to 16k. I call.
F - Qh8d2c - He bets 8k. I fold.
Stack: 325340

Hand 277:
P - Ad4d - He bets 12k. I push. He folds.
Stack: 341340

Hand 278:
P - 9s5s - I complete. He checks.
F - Kc7h3s - He pushes. I fold.
Stack: 333340

Hand 279:
P - QdTc - He completes. I raise to 24k. He folds.
Stack: 341340

Hand 280: As7s - I bet 20k. He folds.
Stack: 349340

Hand 281: folded to me
Stack: 354340

Hand 282:
P - 9s3s - I complete. He checks.
F - JsTh4h - He bets 8k. I Fold.
Stack: 345340

Hand 283:
P - Ts4c - He raises to 16k. I call.
F - Ah4d2d - I check. He bets 16k. I fold.
Stack: 329340

Hand 284: Tc3s - I raise to 20k. He folds.
Stack: 337340

Hand 285:
P - Qs2c - He completes. I check.
F - Jd6c3d - I check. He bets 16k. I fold.
Stack: 329340

Hand 286: Ks9d - I raise to 24k. He folds.
Stack: 337340

Hand 287: folded to me
Stack: 341340

Hand 288: Kd2c - I raise to 24k. He folds.
Stack: 349340

Hand 289:
P - Jd5h - He raises to 16k. I call.
F - Kh6d4c - I check. He bets 16k. I fold.
Stack: 333340

Hand 290: Td4c - I fold to him.
Stack: 329340

Hand 291:
P - 9d2s - He completes. I check.
F - As5s4c - I check. He bets 16k. I raise to 32k. He folds.
Stack: 353340

Hand 292: Qc9c - I raise to 24k. He folds.
Stack: 361340

Hand 293: folded to me..
Stack: 365340

Hand 294: 8d4c - I fold to him.
Stack: 361340

Hand 295:
P - JcTc - He completes. I raise to 31k. He folds.
Stack: 369340

Stack report:
Seat 4: 64160 (tighty)
Seat 6: 369340 (me)

Hand 296:
P - Qc4h - I raise to 24k. He reraises to 40k. I reraise to 56k. He folds.
Stack: 409340
Note: HE Disconnected here for a fraction of a second. Enough for the computer make him fold. I refused to have my first win be a glitch, so the next few hands I give him back his checks. I told him as much.

We pick back up at hand 304

Stack report:
Seat 4: 60160 (tighty)
Seat 6: 373340 (me)

Hand 304:
P - Kc3c - I complete. He checks.
F - Kd5c5h - He checks. I bet 10k. He folds.
Stack: 381340 Him: 52160

Hand 305:
P - Th3h - He raises to 16k. I call.
F - Kh5c2s - I check. He bets 8k. I fold.
Stack: 365340

Hand 306:
P - AsQs - I raise to 24k. He reraises to 40k. I reraise to 56k. He bets 28160
all in.
F - KcTs4c
T - Qh
R - 3d
Showdown - Ad6h vs AsQs. I win.
Stack: ALL!
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Old 02-03-2005, 08:31 AM
Glintir Glintir is offline
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Default Re: Glin\'s Big Win -- Post 2, Final Table [LONG]

Bump. Wanna make sure those who asked for it, spot it.
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Old 02-03-2005, 12:21 PM
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Default Re: Glin\'s Big Win -- Post 2, Final Table [LONG]

[ QUOTE ]
Hand 223: 2000-4000 in BB. 4 handed.
P - 7c6c - SB completes. I check.
F - Kc9c3d - SB bets 10000. I call.
T - Jc - SB checks. I bet 10000. SB folds.
Stack: 198478
Note: I actually told him not to bet on the turn when he paused to think. I like how tight he is and don't
want to bust him. He's helpful in getting rid of the other two, and easy to predict.

[/ QUOTE ]

Congrats on the win...I just don't think the above is the right thinking. You would have 6x the amount of the 2nd in chips if you get all the SB chips.

-Gryph
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Old 02-03-2005, 12:32 PM
Glintir Glintir is offline
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Default Re: Glin\'s Big Win -- Post 2, Final Table [LONG]

Your probably right that the though process is flawed, and getting all his chips would be better.

Thing is, I don't know that I could have gotten all his chips. If he called here and the river is a blank, he's going to check-fold and I've gotten 10k more. Which is nice. If he's holding a single club 8 or higher and a fourth flush card comes out I get broken by the hand. This thinking is probably a leak, but at this level I'm ALWAYS getting nailed by a 4-flush on the board and some guy who called to the river with the Ace and nothing else.

So not only do I want him around. I was scared of a 4-flush on the board. And I felt he was leaning to a fold anyway, and figured I'd mess with his head a little.

Next time I'll sit quietly.
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Old 02-03-2005, 12:50 PM
etgryphon etgryphon is offline
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Default Re: Glin\'s Big Win -- Post 2, Final Table [LONG]

He was getting 3.8:1 pot odds and the four flush would be 5.6:1 on the river because there are only 7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] left so it would be wrong for him to call for the flush and you wouldn't pay him the implied odds that he would need to make it a +CEV play

-Gryph

I'm not detracting from you win just some things to think about next time.
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Old 02-03-2005, 03:46 PM
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Default Re: Glin\'s Big Win -- Post 2, Final Table [LONG]

I understand that you're being constructive and do appreciate it. I definitely didn't consider his pot odds at the time, and didn't do it again when reviewing the hand. So that's something to watch.
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Old 02-03-2005, 10:43 PM
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Default Re: Glin\'s Big Win -- Post 2, Final Table [LONG]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Hand 223: 2000-4000 in BB. 4 handed.
P - 7c6c - SB completes. I check.
F - Kc9c3d - SB bets 10000. I call.
T - Jc - SB checks. I bet 10000. SB folds.
Stack: 198478
Note: I actually told him not to bet on the turn when he paused to think. I like how tight he is and don't
want to bust him. He's helpful in getting rid of the other two, and easy to predict.

[/ QUOTE ]

Congrats on the win...I just don't think the above is the right thinking. You would have 6x the amount of the 2nd in chips if you get all the SB chips.

-Gryph

[/ QUOTE ]

I guess the ethical issue of collusion isn't relevant at all...?
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Old 02-04-2005, 10:13 AM
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Default Re: Glin\'s Big Win -- Post 2, Final Table [LONG]

Not unless they were friends...Collusion is only a problem if you are trying to make the play mutually beneficial. I think the OP was incorrect in his assessment that this is "benefical" to him and I think he in fact made it harder on himself, he was trying to make a play that benefited himself only. If we are going for intent, I don't think the OP had it...It does LOOK like it though which is another reason not to make this play.

With that said there is virtually no time that this would be a correct move to do the 2nd in chips. The only thime that this would be a good move is to do to a SS to keep them in the game so you can bully the other stacks.

-Gryph
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