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Old 02-01-2005, 10:19 PM
mostsmooth mostsmooth is offline
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Default im so stupid

i just wanted it to go on record
im just plain stupid
i have a good read on the players at the table, im aware of my table image
i put in a 4xbb raise from mp, one call and then sb goes all in for almost double my bet
and i cant lay down QQ
somebody shoot me
please
i deserve it
wait, dont shoot me, that would be bad
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Old 02-01-2005, 10:38 PM
LuckyEights8 LuckyEights8 is offline
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Default Re: im so stupid

If he goes allin for only double your bet.. and you hold QQ, I would shoot you if you didn't call.
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Old 02-01-2005, 10:50 PM
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Default Re: im so stupid

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If he goes allin for only double your bet.. and you hold QQ, I would shoot you if you didn't call.

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oops, i guess it didnt come out the way i meant it to (im stupid, remember?)
he went in for double more than my raise. i bet 800, he went allin for like 2500
please dont shoot me
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Old 02-01-2005, 10:59 PM
TheTimeIsUp TheTimeIsUp is offline
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Default Re: im so stupid

id kill you if you laid it down
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Old 02-01-2005, 11:25 PM
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Default Re: im so stupid

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id kill you if you laid it down

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shooting was an option, not killing
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Old 02-02-2005, 01:19 AM
Firefly Firefly is offline
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Default Re: im so stupid

Dude, you'd have to have a superhuman read to lay that down. Call, and if he has AA or KK...that's poker...
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Old 02-02-2005, 10:13 AM
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Dude, you'd have to have a superhuman read to lay that down. Call, and if he has AA or KK...that's poker...

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then why bother paying attention to players and game situations and everything else?
a respected player (amazingly enough) who has only shown strong hands bets 4xbb from mp and gets called, youre telling me you would then risk all your chips with AK, JJ, TT in the sb when you still had plenty of chips against a player who has shown probable strength and another player has called that strength? what would you put the caller on? hope for AQ?medium pair?im admittedly a tourney neophyte, but i couldnt imagine this particular player in that situation not having me beat. i understand betting/raising TT, JJ, from ep to protect it, but from the sb i would probably just call the 600 more unless i had a reason to believe my hand was best.(too weak-tight?)
im not adverse to playing QQ against an allin as ive done it gleefully most of the time, so thats not the problem. the problem is playing it when im quite sure im dominated.
maybe i was just thinking weak-tight (as ive been accused of on other occasions), maybe a few more people can chime in.
be gentle,im new
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Old 02-02-2005, 03:48 PM
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nobody?
i was hoping to get at least one person on my side [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 02-02-2005, 04:01 PM
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So it's only 1700 more for you to call. I call, but cross my fingers.
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Old 02-02-2005, 04:02 PM
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okay.
here's a decent rule of thumb. If you never laid down QQ preflop vs. a single opponent preflop, it would be very likely that you would never be making as big a mistake as the times you misappraise the situation and lay down when he has JJ.
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