what is your Total $ won/total rake ratio?

[jobro2]

I would like to get an idea of what a good value of the ratio of net $ won to total rake paid should be for a good winning player.

I figure this ratio gives you an indication of how much $ you had to win with winning hands to replace the $ you lost with losing hands.

your responses will be appreciated.

[Hojglad]

Over 11k hands, mine is about 1.6 ($won/$raked). I suspect that anything positive is good. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[Little Lew]

much smaller sample ~4300 hands 1.503

[chris_a]

Mine is around 0.9 to 1 or so now, but I had a really bad run in the beginning (my Aces are only making 1.5BB/hand). The highest I've seen is about a ratio of about 2 to 1 at Party 0.5/1.0.

BTW, this ratio has very little to do with how much $ you lost with losing hands. That part only affects your win rate.

The ratio is: Net Amount won/Amount Payed in Rake

which is...

(Amount won in winning hands - Rake - Amount lost in losing hands)/Rake

It has more to do with how many hands you play. If you play a lot of hands, you will win more pots of course. But you will also be losing more hands too and paying more rake. If you try to squeeze every last drop of equity out of your marginal hands, this ratio should drop some.

But that doesn't mean that optimizing this ratio optimizes your win rate. Nor does it mean that the most winningest players have the best ratio.

[jobro2]

The rake where I play is 5% up to a 50 cent cap. Most hands don't reach the cap so we just go with 5%.

If all you did was win hands then your ratio would be 20. (1/.05) Each time you lose a hand, you must win the amount you lose before you can bank a net win.

if you have net winnings of $200.00 and the rake is $150.00 then your ratio would be 1.333. this means you have to win $2,800.00 to break even.

If you have net earnings of $200.00 and the rake is $40.00 your ratio would be 5. you would only have to win $600.00 dollars to break even.

So a higher ratio number indicates you are winning a large percentage of the money you bet. A lower number means you are losing a larger percentage of the money you bet and have to win a lot more to book a net win.

[The13atman]

1.2

[topspin]

This would make an interesting poll.

[shadow29]

Over 21,107 hands, my ratio is 1.1564733915806195393169181890389:1

[TomBrooks]

14,000 hands: About $225 won. About $600 rake. Ratio: .375.

But I was losing $190 after 6000 hands when I started on Party.

Last 8000 hands: About $415 won. Rake: About $350. Ratio: 1.2