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Old 01-27-2005, 03:27 AM
DMBFan23 DMBFan23 is offline
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Default Re: Trips w/ flush board at river. Slow down or keep jamming?

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Except I fold small pocket pairs in ep unless I know there are going to be 4-5 other callers.

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hi sykes,

I play pocket pairs in EP unless the game is markedly tight...I don't count on immediate odds to flop my set, I play them for the action I get postflop, which is usually more than enough to make up any EV I lose preflop. It's worked well for me so far, but even SSHE advocates folding the small ones in EP at tighter tables, so it's not clear cut.

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And I slow down when a flush hits because most of the time, they have it.


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I have found that the times they call me with worse hands far more than compensate for the times they have it and raise me, and that's including the times I pay off the raise. auto-freezing up when the board three-flushes could cause you to miss a TON of value bets. sometimes it's appropriate, but I wouldn't use it as a default rule.



hope this helps.
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Old 01-27-2005, 03:31 AM
crownjules crownjules is offline
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Default Re: Trips w/ flush board at river. Slow down or keep jamming?

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Except I fold small pocket pairs in ep unless I know there are going to be 4-5 other callers. And I slow down when a flush hits because most of the time, they have it.

I really do not appreciate being trolled.

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I wouldn't slow down just because a possible flush hits the table. If you check and they don't have the flush and they check through, you just lost a bet that you should have had assuming they called it. Nothing that villain in this situation has done even suggests they have a possible flush draw, so you shouldn't be thinking that.

Don't slow down unless you have been given reason.
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Old 01-27-2005, 03:33 AM
Sykes Sykes is offline
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Default Re: Trips w/ flush board at river. Slow down or keep jamming?

DMB: Maybe it's just a POV for me about the flush.
Also about the 4-5 people needing to call pre-flop, this is also for flop action too. 4-5 people only calling pre-flop is hardly enough for the odds of hitting a set (Since hitting a set on the flop is 8 to 1). The 4-5 people I need in there are for implied odds, so that when I do hit the set, I can raise them appropiately.
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Old 01-27-2005, 04:12 AM
gsyme gsyme is offline
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Default Re: Trips w/ flush board at river. Slow down or keep jamming?

Lets be totally unreasonable and assume people will play any two suited. Even if everyone played every single piece of suited garbage they got, the odds that someone can complete the flush are about 50%. (1 in 23 hands complete the flush.)

In a more reasonable game, check-calling in situations like these is a hatred of money.
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