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Old 01-26-2005, 07:16 AM
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Default Re: How do you win in Texas Holdem in the long run?

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Old 01-26-2005, 09:17 AM
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Default Re: How do you win in Texas Holdem in the long run?

I think the proper strategies for winning at limit holdem is :

1) table selection
2) discipline and patience
3) Consistent play
4) continual analysis
5) Playing an immense volume of hands where you EV is +
(goes back to #1)

A profitable LHE player probably would-should be 8 tabling 50-$1.00 tables on party and playing a game based on WLLHE by the book plus a little more agression with position.....

Poker tracker and multitabling have truly made LHE more a grind and a statistical science and less a game of reading players and nuanced betting patterns.

In fact even though I know this is the most profitable way to play I still refuse to do this just bc 1) I do not find it to be enjoyable in the least. &amp; 2) I have other prospects in my future that will hopefully pay far more hourly performing far less tedious tasks like reviewing contracts, drafting briefs.....

NLHE is much more complicated and a whole different skill set is necessary to be profitable at that game.
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Old 01-26-2005, 12:55 PM
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Default Re: How do you win in Texas Holdem in the long run?

I really don't think i'll mention anything substantially different from all the posts already by here's my 2 cents:

1) Read strategy books and start with Theory of Poker first (Sklansky)
2) Play as much as possible (online, at the casino, in home games) You will notice different dynamics to the game in each of these three situations. For example; a bad beat online may not affect you as much b/c the hands happen so quickly that with good play you can win it back faster.
3) Move up limits as you build a bankroll (getting out of 1-2, 2-4 and 3-6 are crucial to bettering your game.) I am not saying you can't be successful at low limit hold-em but that the majority of players are doing it for pure recreation and don't know much about strategy and will consequently frustrate the best of us with bad but lucky play. To become better we need to play against better opposition. It is similar in sports when you see a great team play down to the level of an inferior team.

4) AND MOST IMPORTANT...poker has a lot of theory you need to learn but that will only get you so far. Also playing hands gives you experience but it is worthless unless you develop the characteristics necessary to show profit over the long run. You must develop patience, critical thinking, self-reflection and be able to analyze why what happens, happens...win or lose. Knowing all the theory is great but if you don't have the fortitude, patience and character to objectively gamble you will never win. Don't worry though these are all attributes you can work on. Personally I am not there mentally yet in every aspect necessary. I still have lots to learn about strategy and plenty to learn about patience. For me I try and develop rules for myself and stick to them until I think they are obsolete and i can adhere to new and more advanced ones. (ie; something as simple as in a No-Limit cash game not going all-in on a draw . Or in a limit game not three betting in the big blind if there are already players in with pocket pairs lower than 99.)

Anyways I know that was long and tedious but it's my two cents for what it's worth...

andy
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Old 01-26-2005, 01:01 PM
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Default a good article on the subject

i like barry tanenbaum's article on the 1bb/hr idea, which focuses on the skill set of a winning player and the order in which most winning players develop those skills:
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Old 01-26-2005, 01:35 PM
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Default Re: How do you win in Texas Holdem in the long run?

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How do you win in Texas Holdem in the long run?

What are the important factors that makes a differance between win and lose?


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All the answers given before are good, but it boils down to putting money in the pot when you have the best of it, and not when you have the worst of it. The trick is to know what situation you're in.

Read "Gambling Theory and other Topics" by Mason Malmuth for an explaination on non self-weighting strategies.
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Old 01-26-2005, 02:32 PM
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Default Re: How do you win in Texas Holdem in the long run?

You seek out opponents who don't understand the game as well as you do, and you make less mistakes than they do. If you do this consistently you will be a long-term winner.
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Old 01-26-2005, 07:23 PM
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Default Re: How do you win in Texas Holdem in the long run?

LoL , IVE ALWAYS WONDERED THAT. i FIGURED DAVE WANTED ME TO KILL MYSELF.
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Old 01-27-2005, 06:59 AM
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Default the aggresion value?

Hi again and thanks for all answers!

From which level of the game can you start on calculate the value on betting because there is i chance that your opponent fold?

Is that the fold equity?

again thanks alot i really appreciate all your answers.

/Robert
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Old 01-27-2005, 07:23 AM
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Default Re: the aggresion value?

Whenever you're heads up or in a threehanded pot where the opponents aren't going to the river with 8 high.

I'd rather value bet a table full of calling stations than make my money on fold equity. People not folding is a good thing when you can adjust to it.
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Old 01-27-2005, 11:13 AM
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Default Re: the aggresion value?

[ QUOTE ]
Hi again and thanks for all answers!

From which level of the game can you start on calculate the value on betting because there is i chance that your opponent fold?

Is that the fold equity?

again thanks alot i really appreciate all your answers.

/Robert

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Players will fold at play money tables, so the answer is:

At all limits.

The more important question is:

What is the relationship between their calling% and folding% in this hand, and what is the likelihood of your hand ending up the best?
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