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Old 10-21-2002, 01:59 AM
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Default I feel like I just urinated all over myself.

A $1-$2 hand online:

I'm UTG+3 with AdQh. One guy limps, I raise, the cutoff coldcalls, the BB calls, so does the limper. Four of us see the flop with eight small bets in the pot.

Flop comes Ts-4s-2s, completely missing me, though I do have a running straight draw. the BB checks, I do the obligatory bet b/c of my preflop raise, the cutoff calls, so do the BB and limper. My flop bet following the preflop raise accomplished NOTHING. We see the turn four handed with six big bets in there.

Turn is Qd. Board is Ts-4s-2s-Qd. This is a good turn card for me, it gives me top pair top kicker, but my running straight draw has fallen into the toilet. It's checked to me, I bet, the cutoff folds, the BB calls, the limper folds. It's head to head as we navigate the river.

River is the Jd. Board is Ts-4s-2s-Qd-Jd.

The BB bets into me and I call even though I know quite well that I should just let it go. He turns over AKs for the runner runner broadway.

This guy didn't reraise me preflop with his AK.

Looking back I think I should have checkraised the turn but I had doubts that anyone behind me would bet and I couldn't risk giving the free card. I didn't give the winning hand any cheap cards, so where did I go wrong? Did I play this incorrectly or is that just the way it goes sometimes?

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Old 10-21-2002, 02:39 AM
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Default Re: I feel like I just urinated all over myself.

You sucked out on the turn, and he re-sucked out on the river. That's poker.
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Old 10-21-2002, 03:48 AM
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Default If the AK-guy had open-raised - what would you have done ?

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Old 10-21-2002, 04:00 AM
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Default Re: I feel like I just urinated all over myself.

Preflop: Good, routine play.
Flop: This is troubling to me with 4 opponents. Someone could have flopped a flush in which case you're drawing dead, but more likely someone has a single spade. So if they hit a spade on the turn or river, you're drawing dead again. Your hand is basically good overcards, don't worry about your runner-runner broadway draw since you need to hit one of 2 gutshots on the turn just to create a gutshot on the river, and the K and J of spades are not good...I think a bet is ok to try to take it down, but I suspect at $1-$2 you will get some lone spades to call you (even low-medium ones), and so I'd check-fold.
Turn: Perfect card. I would bet rather than check-raise since as you said a bet can not be counted on and you definitely don't want a lone spade getting a free card.
River: I would call, you're getting 9:1 and I think you win 1 out of 10 here.
Just some thoughts.
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Old 10-21-2002, 10:37 AM
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Default Re: If the AK-guy had open-raised - what would you have done ?

The BB could not have openraised b/c he was the BB. If he had reraised, I would have dropped because I know I'd be severely dominated by AK, KK, AA. He might have also had JJ, however, but I still would have folded, I believe.
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