QJ bad ?

BottlesOf · #1 01-23-2005, 05:37 PM

Yuck.

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, MP calls, Button folds, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, UTG calls, MP folds.

Turn: (3.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, UTG raises, Hero folds, BB calls.

River: (8.50 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, UTG checks.

Final Pot: 8.50 BB

Lmn55d · #2 01-23-2005, 05:40 PM

how else would you play it?

pr0crastin8r · #3 01-23-2005, 06:02 PM

a read would be nice, but i would probably switch into calldown mode.

anybody think it's actually better to fold here?

Bluffoon · #4 01-23-2005, 07:06 PM

Against a typical opponent its ok to fold here, but not always.

Against a more aggressive opponents I tend to call down more, for obvious reasons. If I have been calling down a lot I will tend to fold, assuming my opponent is betting for value, if I have been folding I will tend to call down more.

Stork · #5 01-23-2005, 07:25 PM

I would call if you can fold the river unimproved, you just barely have the odds to try and spike a Q or a J.

Lmn55d · #6 01-23-2005, 07:35 PM

that is assuming his 5 outs are good, which they might not be. Also, BB might have a flush draw or something which might come.

Stork · #7 01-23-2005, 07:45 PM

But you can expect to collect at least 1-2 more bets when you hit which gives you enough overlay to call.

BottlesOf · #8 01-23-2005, 08:49 PM

Thanks. I think this is a good way to handle unknowns in these games. Sigh...in time, I'll get it hopefully.