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Re: Bet into on the turn with overpair on board.
A7 doesnt raise in early position...
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#12
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Re: Bet into on the turn with overpair on board.
I would raise, if he had a K why wouldn't he check raise?
You said villian is a good player; a good player would probably raise the flop or check-raise the turn if he had a K. Since he made neither of these plays, I would not give him credit for the K. I raise, I think you are way ahead. |
#13
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Re: Bet into on the turn with overpair on board.
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I would raise, if he had a K why wouldn't he check raise? You said villian is a good player; a good player would probably raise the flop or check-raise the turn if he had a K. Since he made neither of these plays, I would not give him credit for the K. I raise, I think you are way ahead. [/ QUOTE ] Villain is a good player. I think raising here is a mistake; he may bluff this board with hands you beat, but he'll certainly bet-3bet you, or if he recognizes that, he'll call your raise and bet the river again, because most people who have the discipline to raise and fold to a 3-bet will, for whatever reason, call an additional river bet. Rob |
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MY ACTION ON TURN...
Hero raises this turn. My thoughts...
1) Villain was first to cold-call a preflop raise. To me this means he wants more callers and that he does not hold an easily dominated hand like KQ, KJ, etc. 2) When preflop raiser checks and folds, my bet could simply be a position bet. 3) If villain holds a pocket pair that beats me then calling down is disastrously weak and costly. Why not put the pressure back on him? He give me the chance to save two big bets by folding...I throw that opportunity back to him. Make sense? What if he 3-bets? I guess I should add that original preflop raiser leaned weak... |
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Re: MY ACTION ON TURN...
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Make sense? What if he 3-bets? I guess I should add that original preflop raiser leaned weak... [/ QUOTE ] If this was the case then he would be trying to isolate against this player with lesser holdings. He'd definately 3-bet with AA-TT and probably 99 and 88 among some other overcard hands. Let me ask you, were there a lot of loose players to act after he cold called? If that is the case then he probably has some smaller PP than your 99 and is expecting enough people to call to make it playable. Other than that, I can't image what a decent player cold calls with here especially considering the raiser is a little trigger happy. Calling down is probably the best line. I missed your original read that you thought he was decent. I see a lot of players make weak stabs on the turn and have still called down my turn raises with crap. |
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Re: Bet into on the turn with overpair on board.
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A7 doesnt raise in early position... [/ QUOTE ] Villian didn't open raise, he cold called the open raise. I missed the read that the player was decent therefore I suspected A7o or A7s would be possible here. Although if villian think the players behind him are loose enough and MP1 raises light, its possible he could've coldcalled with A7s |
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Re: Bet into on the turn with overpair on board.
How bad is folding this preflop?
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Re: Bet into on the turn with overpair on board.
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How bad is folding this preflop? [/ QUOTE ] dont know about that. but i sure as hell ain't 3-betting |
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Re: Bet into on the turn with overpair on board.
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[ QUOTE ] How bad is folding this preflop? [/ QUOTE ] dont know about that. but i sure as hell ain't 3-betting [/ QUOTE ] Difference between calling and 3-betting = one small bet + possibly the blinds. I have position and am curious as to why the villain did not 3-bet to isolate the raiser. |
#20
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RESULT.
Villain folded to the turn raise.
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