Flopped the straight, but I'm worried about the flush.

ThePenguin · #1 01-19-2005, 01:03 AM

I just want ideas on how to play this. Especially, would you have raised as much as I did on flop and turn? Do you wait until you know you have the best hand? Or do you keep rasing because your hand is the best even though there are draws?

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (12 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, UTG+1 raises, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO folds, Hero 3-bets, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (12 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, UTG+1 raises, MP2 folds, Hero 3-bets, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

River: (21 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero calls, BB folds.

Final Pot: 23 BB

Avatar · #2 01-19-2005, 01:12 AM

ack!
bet the river!
UTG+1 showed a lot of aggression the whole way. He's the last one you should be worrying about drawing to a backdoor flush.
And since you misclicked the check button by accident, I'd be raising the river.

Harv72b · #3 01-19-2005, 01:14 AM

You raise the early streets precisely because of the draws. In this case, you have to worry about the diamond draw to a flush, an A or Q coming which might lead to a chopped pot, or someone with two pair who is drawing to a FH against you. However, as long as those scare cards do not come, you have the nuts...so you want to make them pay as much as you can for the priviledge of trying to outdraw you.

When it comes to the river, I find it much more likely that UTG+1 has two pair or possibly a lower straight. UTG+1 has raised you on consecutive streets already, , which he would not do with two clubs in the hole unless he was on the very specific hands of A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] or K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. AQs would likely have raised preflop and would probably have capped behind your 3-bets, so I'll take my chances of him having KJs here.

Raise the river. You're going to be best here far more often than not.

Nick C · #4 01-19-2005, 01:28 AM

If you were heads-up and you knew your opponent had A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] or A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], then you should slow down, as you'd just be tied with a chance of going on to lose.

As it is, though, you have many opponents, and while you could go on to lose to one of their draws or end up chopping (if someone else also has AQ or your hand gets counterfeited), I don't see any reason not to keep betting and raising with the nuts.

I probably would have bet the river, actually. UTG+1 may have something like K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] or K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], but I don't think I'd be convinced quite yet. I don't usually check because a backdoor flush may have just hit. I will admit, though, that in this instance it seems more likely than usual, since UTG+1 raised again on the turn when the second club fell.