Help me i must be too passive.

stonecold · #1 01-15-2005, 02:26 AM

CO is loose and cant say if he is either pass or agg

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG folds, MP calls, CO calls, Button calls, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 players)
Hero bets, BB folds, MP calls, CO raises, Button calls, Hero 3-bets, MP calls, CO calls, Button folds.

Turn: (8 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, MP folds, CO raises, Hero calls.

River: (12 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 14 BB

Results in white below: 
Hero has Ac 7s (two pair, aces and sevens).
CO has 2h Ah (one pair, aces).
Outcome: Hero wins 14 BB. 

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The raiser is a total maniac capping every street if he as top pair i think he is tilting. BB is semi tight and not showing any agg on the 20-30 hands he have played at my table.

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG folds, MP raises, Button folds, Hero calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP bets, Hero calls, BB raises, MP calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (6 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, MP calls, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, MP folds, Hero calls.

River: (13 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 15 BB

Results in white below: 
BB has Ah 2d (two pair, aces and nines).
Hero has 8s 9d (three of a kind, nines).
Outcome: Hero wins 15 BB. 

Do i play to passive ?
Was the pf call wrong in hand 2 ?
Where can i find the best info about aggresive play ?
i Have about 20 books dont have the time to tell u exactly what they are but tell me a section in a book that i should reread or read.... havent read them all yet...

Jonny · #2 01-15-2005, 02:38 AM

hand 1: I 3-bet the turn. If capped, I check/call the river. If not capped, then I lead the river planning to call a raise.

hand 2: Fold PF, calling here is horrid. Now that you have hit a flop, I lead it, and get raised by a likely A. Then I go for a c/r on the turn and lead the river.

stonecold · #3 01-15-2005, 02:48 AM

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hand 2: Fold PF, calling here is horrid.. Now that you have hit a flop, I lead it, and get raised by a likely A. Then I go for a c/r on the turn and lead the river.

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Yeah i know but he had been raising every hand and was giving away free money to anyone that hit a hand. But this time he folded early dont know why maybe he didnt have one single draw. I dont want to defend my 89 call but i want to say that i make call like this very very very rarely..

alekhine8 · #4 01-15-2005, 02:51 AM

(Not looking at results..)

Hand 1 - Looks fine. The CO play could indicate a set, a big ace/AQ. Once its heads-up after you lead out on the turn, there is no problem with check/calling the CO down.

Hand 2 - I know you said hes a maniac, but this isn't a good play. Defending your big blind with 98o is fine, but not the small blind. Postflop I think is fine. He doesn't seem to fear much of anything having check-raised the flop and 3-betting you on the turn.

EDIT: Looked at results. I still think calling down as you did is the right play. There is no shame in being 'passive' (if you want to call it that) calling down uber-LAGs that populate the 10/20 games. Especially when you are out of position as you were on both these hands.

Scotch78 · #5 01-15-2005, 04:11 AM

duade, that's like to mayny hands in one post

sinfulslick18 · #6 01-15-2005, 12:10 PM

first hand... i would cap the flop, reraise the turn and bet the river.

second hand....cap the turn and raise the river...no specific parts of books that i know of right now