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Old 01-13-2005, 03:28 PM
lostinthought lostinthought is offline
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Default Value betting against two opponents..

I just sat down and accidently posted. No reads on anybody..

Heads up the river is an easy bet. Against two opponents, I don't like my kicker here. Weak?

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Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $2.
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, Hero (poster) checks, Button folds, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB folds, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls.

River: (9.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, MP3 checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 9.50 BB
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Old 01-13-2005, 03:32 PM
meep_42 meep_42 is offline
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Default Re: Value betting against two opponents..

Every time you check this river, God kills a kitten.

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Old 01-13-2005, 03:35 PM
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Default Re: Value betting against two opponents..

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Every time you check this river, God kills a kitten.

-d

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Thats an old line but everytime I hear it I still chuckle.

And he's right. God does. Don't check. And don't forget to drink your milk everyday.
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Old 01-13-2005, 03:36 PM
mannika mannika is offline
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Default Re: Value betting against two opponents..

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Every time you check this river, God kills a kitten.

-d

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You win the prize for creativity.

On another note, who else posts in the CO position normally when sitting down at a table? I've recently started doing so.
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Old 01-13-2005, 03:39 PM
JinX11 JinX11 is offline
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Default Re: Value betting against two opponents..

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Weak?

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Extremely.

Don't you think you'd normally have heard from a better queen by now? I would say the likelihood that a better queen is out there is many times less than likely than a) a worse queen, b) a middle/bottom pair, good kicker (AT), c) a busted draw (KJ, J9, 89) is out there.

You win. Bet and drag the pot.
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Old 01-13-2005, 03:42 PM
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Default Re: Value betting against two opponents..

I agree with the others that you really must bet the river here.

But out of curiosity why do you feel it's an easier bet heads up than against two opponents? I think it's an even worse check against two.
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Old 01-13-2005, 03:42 PM
JinX11 JinX11 is offline
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Default Re: Value betting against two opponents..

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who else posts in the CO position normally when sitting down at a table? I've recently started doing so.

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[censored], I now post UTG. Posting in CO is *soooo* last year.

2+2 table, last night....
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Old 01-13-2005, 03:43 PM
meep_42 meep_42 is offline
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Default Re: Value betting against two opponents..

I'll post anywhere but the first 3 seats. It just doesn't matter to me that much. 25% of the time i'll get a playable hand, then another 5% of the time i'll flop something decent to monsterish (we'll forget the time I posted, got 58o - flop 558 and lost to 88. :P ).

It's just not that big of a deal to me.
(Posting in BB = .15 SB/hand, posting in CO = .14 SB/hand, posting 3 off the button = .2 SB/hand)

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Old 01-13-2005, 03:43 PM
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Default Re: Value betting against two opponents..

Bet this river. Not doing so is bad. Very bad.
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Old 01-13-2005, 03:45 PM
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Default Re: Value betting against two opponents..

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[censored], I now post UTG. Posting in CO is *soooo* last year.

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Censoring stuff is sooo last week. And I have no ida what could have been censored there.
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