KJ vs maniac

deathpotato · #1 01-12-2005, 01:45 AM

MP2 was extremely loose/passive preflop-I had seen him fold one hand in 3 orbits preflop. He tended to just call preflop, however, and I hadn't seen him raise many hands until he saw the board cards. He was very raise-happy postflop.

The flop 3bet is a misclick, I planned to call and check/fold the turn unimproved, as I could see him raising preflop and capping the flop with a weak ace here, before the turn I put him on nothing better than a pair of aces.

On the turn I get my two pair, I'm not sure that the check-raise is really necessary here as he would probably have raised me had I just bet out, but I don't think there was much of a risk of giving a free card given his flop aggression. I was a little bit worried on the turn, and was torn between calling his 3bet and capping, but opted for capping--I think this may have been a mistake, despite his maniacal tendencies.

The river completes a spade flush draw, I bet out again, as I had capped the turn, and he just calls (surely he doesn't think I capped the turn with a flush draw?)

Anyway, this hand confused me a fair deal,

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, Hero raises, MP2 3-bets, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, MP2 raises, Hero 3-bets, MP2 caps, Hero calls.

Turn: (7.75 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets, Hero raises, MP2 3-bets, Hero caps, MP2 calls.

River: (15.75 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, MP2 calls.

Final Pot: 17.75 BB

toss · #2 01-12-2005, 02:14 AM

I'd fold this PF especially since the maniac raiser is to your left.

Call the flop, raise and 3-bet the turn, and bet the river.

Smasharoo · #3 01-12-2005, 02:30 AM

how did you react when he flipped over AK?

deathpotato · #4 01-12-2005, 03:00 AM

Actually, I reacted with confusion when he showed QTo for the turned straight, and changed my read on his preflop raising standards.

Hack · #5 01-12-2005, 06:15 AM

You're saying he 3bet you with QTo preflop? You sure about that?

Hack · #6 01-12-2005, 06:15 AM

You're saying he 3bet you with QTo preflop? You sure about that?

NO LP-P is 3betting QTo preflop.

deathpotato · #7 01-12-2005, 09:08 PM

As I said, I realized at this point that he was even more insane than I had initially thought. Here's the HH with results:
Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, Hero raises, MP2 3-bets, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, MP2 raises, Hero 3-bets, MP2 caps, Hero calls.

Turn: (7.75 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets, Hero raises, MP2 3-bets, Hero caps, MP2 calls.

River: (15.75 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, MP2 calls.

Final Pot: 17.75 BB

Results in white below: 
Hero has Kc Js (two pair, kings and jacks).
MP2 has Qh Ts (straight, ace high).
Outcome: MP2 wins 17.75 BB.