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Old 01-11-2005, 04:07 PM
shaundeeb shaundeeb is offline
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Default Questionable Turn play

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Preflop: Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. MP3 posts a blind of $3.
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 (poster) folds, CO folds, Button folds, Hero calls, BB folds, UTG calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 caps</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (8.50 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 caps</font>, Hero calls.

River: (16.50 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Final Pot: 18.50 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has 9s Ts (flush, ten high).
UTG+1 has Ah 9c (three of a kind, nines).
Outcome: Hero wins 18.50 BB. </font>

I really like my flop capping figuring I am ahead and have 14 outs to out draw his overpair. Anyone not cap the turn against villain? I only saw 77 as a holding he could have and didn't seem like a likely one.
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Old 01-11-2005, 04:09 PM
Reef Reef is offline
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Default Re: Questionable Turn play

I just call his raise on the turn. I'm figuring he has a bigger 9 or set at this point. His river play tells me it's not the latter.
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Old 01-11-2005, 04:39 PM
MarkL444 MarkL444 is offline
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Default Re: Questionable Turn play

dont include results.

id throw this away from the small blind with only 1/3 of a SB in there against the raise, but thats just me. maybe one more call and im in.

i just call his flop raise. turn and river seem fine.
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Old 01-11-2005, 04:41 PM
DemonDeac DemonDeac is offline
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Default Re: Questionable Turn play

word dizzle
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Old 01-11-2005, 04:46 PM
Fat Nicky Fat Nicky is offline
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Default Re: Questionable Turn play

I think it's all fine, including the turn 3-bet. UTG+1 raised pre-flop, which means he could have capped the flop w/and overpair. Also, not many players will cap with a top pair of 9s. You will be good most times to 3-bet the turn.
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Old 01-11-2005, 04:52 PM
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Default Re: Questionable Turn play

u should 3 bet that turn for several reasons

1) you could be ahead often
2) you got a TON of outs to either win or split

Perfect play, except that its a pretty bad PF call. Oh well, the key is post flop! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

P.S. I assume that a non spade river, you check.
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Old 01-11-2005, 05:02 PM
meep_42 meep_42 is offline
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Default Re: Questionable Turn play

What about a c/r on the turn? If he 3-bets you here, you can be pretty sure you're drawing and save a bet.

-d
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Old 01-11-2005, 05:06 PM
zimmer879 zimmer879 is offline
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Default Re: Questionable Turn play

Definite fold pre-flop. You have 1/3 bet in, and T9s is garbage 3 handed and out of position.
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Old 01-11-2005, 05:14 PM
ErrantNight ErrantNight is offline
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Default Re: Questionable Turn play

I think it's a pretty questionable preflop call. I think it's a pretty questionable preflop call in a game where the small blind is half the small bet... let alone when 1/3.

That said... absent a read on UTG+1 it sure looks like he's overplaying a big pocket pair. You've got goads of outs... I like it all the way around once the flop comes. I think his 3-bet has to set off warning bells... but you're ahead against a majority of his likely holdings with draws against everything except 77 (assuming we agree to consider "drawing" to quads to be something of a misnomer)
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