hot QJs action

MojoRisin · #1 01-11-2005, 12:50 AM

Assume no reads.
Carribean 2/4

Hero is dealt: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] in the BB
2 folds, Villain raises, 6 folds, Hero calls

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Whats your line?

ecooke · #2 01-11-2005, 01:16 AM

Hm... today I feel like check/call the flop and c/r the Turn. He might even drop a better Q if he's weak tight.
But there are lots of reasonable lines to take HU...

Entity · #3 01-11-2005, 01:21 AM

I check/call the flop, check/call the turn, and bet the river.

Rob

Gravy (Gravy Smoothie) · #4 01-11-2005, 01:27 AM

I would like both of the lines suggested above better if your hand was less vulnerable to overcards (top pair A's or K's instead of Q's). I would checkraise the flop and lead the turn. If he 3-bets the flop I either call and fold the turn unimproved or call down depending on my read of the player.

jclin · #5 01-11-2005, 01:28 AM

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I check/call the flop, check/call the turn, and bet the river.

Rob

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Ditto. AQ or KQ still quite likely. I think weak-tight this time around is sufficient. If choosing to raise, c/r on flop I think is best place to raise. Turn is disastrous if you are 3-bet on a c/r (assuming no Q on turn).

Entity · #6 01-11-2005, 01:28 AM

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I would like both of the lines suggested above better if your hand was less vulnerable to overcards (top pair A's or K's instead of Q's). I would checkraise the flop and lead the turn. If he 3-bets the flop I either call and fold the turn unimproved or call down depending on my read of the player.

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You do know that checkraising the flop makes it more correct for him to call a turn blank, right? It's head's up, and at this point, you want to win the most bets possible while losing the least. That's what the c/c, c/c, bet line is designed for.

Rob

Shillx · #7 01-11-2005, 01:30 AM

My line goes...click fold button preflop, walk to fridge to get a beer, sit down in time to fold small blind w/o timing out. Something like that.

Check/raise flop, bet/fold turn is one way to go.

Brad

Entity · #8 01-11-2005, 01:33 AM

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My line goes...click fold button preflop, walk to fridge to get a beer, sit down in time to fold small blind w/o timing out. Something like that.

Check/raise flop, bet/fold turn is one way to go.

Brad

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If you c/r the flop there will be a minimum of 4.25BB in the pot. Bet/folding the turn then would be marginally ok, as long as he'll never bluffraise the turn, but you'll be getting 7.25:1 with 5 possible outs.

Rob

Shillx · #9 01-11-2005, 01:38 AM

Exactly why I fold preflop. This hand is super tough to play OOP. If this guy plays pretty well postflop, he is in a lose less/win more situation. If he is super aggressive I might call preflop and just check/call it the whole way.

Brad

Entity · #10 01-11-2005, 01:44 AM

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I would like both of the lines suggested above better if your hand was less vulnerable to overcards (top pair A's or K's instead of Q's). I would checkraise the flop and lead the turn. If he 3-bets the flop I either call and fold the turn unimproved or call down depending on my read of the player.

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Unless you're planning on finding a way to fold your hand, I'd be careful using overly aggressive lines here. At most this guy has 6 outs.