What you think?

arabie · #1 01-08-2005, 05:49 PM

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG raises, MP folds, CO folds, Button folds, Hero 3-bets, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (9 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, BB raises, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, UTG calls.

River: (10.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, BB raises, UTG 3-bets, Hero folds, BB calls.

Final Pot: 17.50 BB

sthief09 · #2 01-08-2005, 05:58 PM

couple of comments:
- against certain opponents, I'll just call AK out of the SB. that's more in full games, but if your opponent happens to be a LAG, then I'm a fan of just calling, then bet-3betting a favorable flop. if he's loose, you'll be going to showdown regardless, so just let him bluff/semibluff his chips away if he's behind
- if you're going to just call the flop bet, I think you have to check raise the turn. I don't see the point of a stop n go here. you're ahead the vast majority of the time. you didn't get enough bets in on the flop and turn when you were ahead
- there's no chance you're ahead on the river. it's tough to tell what UTG has. it could be anything from a slowplayed AA to a river set of jacks to broadway. BB probably has something like AJ. but yeah, easy fold. that card just creates so many possibilities for your opponents to beat you.

Danenania · #3 01-08-2005, 06:08 PM

I would always 3-bet this flop and lead the turn. River fold is easy.

Danenania · #4 01-08-2005, 06:10 PM

"- against certain opponents, I'll just call AK out of the SB. that's more in full games, but if your opponent happens to be a LAG, then I'm a fan of just calling, then bet-3betting a favorable flop. if he's loose, you'll be going to showdown regardless, so just let him bluff/semibluff his chips away if he's behind"

I don't think you can do this with AK because then you let the BB in cheaply and cripple your chances of winning unimproved. I like this line better with AA or KK.

Sandstone · #5 01-08-2005, 06:28 PM

I don't like just calling the raise on the flop and then betting out on the turn. If you just call the raise there, you're looking to C/R the turn.

Either three=bet the flop or go for the check-raise

sthief09 · #6 01-08-2005, 06:31 PM

with AA/KK I bet any flop. with AK against an UTG raiser (in full games), I think it's a good line to take. the problem is, against an aggressive player, it's going to look like this:

UTG raises, Hero 3-bets from the SB, UTG calls

Flop comes with no A or K: hero bets, UTG raises, now what

Danenania · #7 01-08-2005, 07:15 PM

You're right that it can make for a tricky decision but I don't think the advantages of calling preflop make up for letting the BB come in (also some missed value).

How to handle a flop raise depends on the player and how the flop looks.