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Old 01-08-2005, 03:45 AM
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Old 01-08-2005, 03:57 AM
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Default Re: Why you don\'t fold a marginal hand in a huge pot

I don't like it, you limped with A2s and hit the ace, fold when it is two back to you. Tough place to be with this many opponents. On the flop, with a bet, a raise and a cold caller, I think I fold. You are likely behind to at least a kicker. That leaves you with 4.5 outs to hit your 2 or follow up on the BDFD. I would reduce these outs even since the two is top and bottom two pair only and the 2 can easily be counterfeited. On the turn you are still calling to thee 2's, but aces up won't always win, I think you just barely have the odds to call the turn, but shouldn't have been there. Bet the river, call a raise, your check/raise would only be called/raised by a hand that beat your aces and twos.

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Old 01-08-2005, 03:59 AM
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Default Re: Why you don\'t fold a marginal hand in a huge pot

Fold PF when it is 2 more back to you.

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Old 01-08-2005, 04:03 AM
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Fold PF when it is 2 more back to you.

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Getting 7.5-1 you're not gonna call this, plus the implied odds?
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Old 01-08-2005, 04:06 AM
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Default Re: Why you don\'t fold a marginal hand in a huge pot

yes, fold.

It's too expensive to see the flop with that marginal hand. An ace will only get you in trouble as you are probably out-kicked. You have to hit your flush. You tried to see a cheap flop, they wouldn't let you...time to bail.
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Old 01-08-2005, 04:08 AM
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Implied odds? Your implied odds are shot to hell here. The only way you can honestly expect to win this hand is if you make a flush or a straight. You want to pay one or maybe two bets preflop and then collect lots of bets when you make your hand. You won't flop a good hand enough here to make it worth playing. Also notice that your implied odds are even worse if someone will cap it.

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Old 01-08-2005, 04:12 AM
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Default Re: Why you don\'t fold a marginal hand in a huge pot

If you also recall Mr. Miller stated that when it is two back to you after you have limped you should treat it like coldcalling from a later position and I dont know anyone who recommends coldcalling with A2s, so yah fold.
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