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Old 01-06-2005, 02:12 AM
Jonny Jonny is offline
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Default Re: Percentage of flops seen...

my VPIP is 6max NL100 on party is 23%.
On paradise NL200 ring its 21-21%.

I'll play AT and up on the button, along with pocket pairs, and suited connects unless the stacks are real short.
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Old 01-06-2005, 02:48 AM
CWilly CWilly is offline
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Default Re: Percentage of flops seen...

Thanks for all the replies! It looks like my 22% is pretty decent then.
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Old 01-06-2005, 03:42 PM
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Default Re: Percentage of flops seen...

I play 6max NL100 and my VP$IP is 16%. I have been quite sucessful.
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Old 01-06-2005, 03:54 PM
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Default Re: Percentage of flops seen...

I'm at 18% at Prima. I muck hands like AQ, AJ, KQ, AT, A6s, and lower unless it's in LP unraised pots. Worst hand from EP would be AKo, if you rank that lower than PP.
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Old 01-06-2005, 03:55 PM
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Default Re: Percentage of flops seen...

My VP$IP is 21.% for Party 6 max 100 NL and I don't consider myself tight at all. That would probably be at least 28-30% for flops seen. So 22% seems around very reasonable for a full game. I think optimal % seen can vary depending on your particular style of play.
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Old 01-06-2005, 03:58 PM
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Default Re: Percentage of flops seen...

Full: 18-21% VP$IP
SH: 21-24% VP$IP
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Old 01-06-2005, 04:12 PM
Big Mac Big Mac is offline
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Default Re: Percentage of flops seen...

This depends on the game. For example if you typically have 5-6 limpers your Sb and button should see a lot of flops. On the other hand if a lot of aggression is taking place pre-flop I've had sessions where I see 14%

A session can be anywhere from 14%-30% and I was able to consider myself playing ideally.

Since a combination of table selection and turnover along with your starting hand selection and adjusting starting hand selection as you go effect ideal play, I suggest reviewing this on a session by session basis rather than long term. (Sorry about the runon)

It is possible for 2 players to have identical starting hand requirements but since one is better at table selection he/she has a higher seen flop %
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Old 01-06-2005, 04:46 PM
BradleyT BradleyT is offline
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Default Re: Percentage of flops seen...

My SB VP$IP is 32% and SB folded to steal is at 97.8% [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]
However my SB is also my second highest winning position - button being highest.

I've only got a few thousand hands in of NL $25 6 max though. I just started two weeks ago when I had 5 hours left to clear 550 hands of an Empire bonus and I figured this was the fastest game - and I took a liking to it and the horrible play I've seen. I used to play limit he and o/8.
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Old 01-06-2005, 04:55 PM
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Default Re: Percentage of flops seen...

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I've only got a few thousand hands in of NL $25 6 max though. I just started two weeks ago when I had 5 hours left to clear 550 hands of an Empire bonus and I figured this was the fastest game - and I took a liking to it and the horrible play I've seen. I used to play limit he and o/8.

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Muhahahaha SSNL snags another 2+2'er. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img] BTW what levels of limit play did you play before?
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Old 01-06-2005, 05:20 PM
gmetken gmetken is offline
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Default Re: Percentage of flops seen...

I play at Golden Palace. Been there for about a year. Right now I play 9 player .25/.50 NL. I see about 44% of the flops. I am doing very well by the way. I think my 44% is high but you can't argue my results. In fact, I would say 95% of my beats are to crappy hands like 37s etc. There is not too much preflop raising going on normally. I am normally able to play all PP, AK, AQ, Ax suited, suited connectors 56 and higher, as well as any 2 face cards (i.e. JT, QT, KJ etc). If there is a big raise after me I'll just toss the weak hands no biggie.
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