AK suited- First hand

onealx4 · #1 01-03-2005, 11:10 PM

How would you guys play this? This was the very first hand of the tournament so no small stacks, no reads- nothing..

Button (t1500)
SB (t1500)
BB (t1500)
UTG (t1500)
Hero (t1500)
MP1 (t1500)
MP2 (t1500)
MP3 (t1500)
CO (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG folds, Hero raises to t40, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button raises to t540, SB folds, BB folds, Hero calls t500.

Flop: (t1110) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets t220, Button raises to t960 (All in)

moa · #2 01-03-2005, 11:20 PM

Since you already decided to play the hand, and you got a very favorable flop, you are pretty comitted to putting all your chips in.

Mr_J · #3 01-03-2005, 11:36 PM

Well unless he's a total moron, he's huge PF raise suggests a very strong starting hand (either totally crazy or maybe foolish with such a large re-raise). What buy-in? So AA-kk, and maybe QQ-JJ. AK is also possible.

AK you are marginally ahead thanks to a small flush possibility. QQ you are far ahead. AA,KK and JJ and you are in deep trouble. Such a large PF raise I have to assume he has you beat (AA-KK) or AK at best. I'd fold. I also would've raised double what you did.

rabman · #4 01-03-2005, 11:36 PM

First I try to figure which hands I'd go all in with on this flop. AA, KK, JJ, 99, is possible. Maybe another AK. Could he have tried to buy the blinds with a QT, KJ, or J9? Not likely. Remember you have to have a much better hand to call an all-in than you do to push all-in and this hand has lots of ways to be beat. AA, JJ, or 99 you have 2 outs, KK you need runner runner Aces. I'm gonna fold because the only thing I'm ahead of here is a bluff. I will still have T960 and can wait around for a couple of levels to get a real hand and a better opportunity.

Sidekick · #5 01-03-2005, 11:45 PM

I don't see it, but I'm guessing that your blinds are 10/20? If so, then I don't like the preflop min raise. Either limp if you are trying to trap someone or raise to 60-100.

On the flop you are betting only 220 into a 1k pot. If this is a come along and play with me bet that is fine, but if not then the bet is too weak. You need to be betting at least half the pot here and since that is going to commit you to the hand, you might as well push all in.

With the way you played the hand I think you pretty much have to call. You couldn't ask for a much more favorable flop realistically. You have TPTK and a backdoor flush draw.

There are four hands you are worried about here AA, KK, JJ or 99. With the way buton bet the flop I can't see him on any of those hands. He would most likely just call your bet and hope you lead out again on the turn.

Edit: You should always post the Buy-in for the tournament. The play varies wildly depending on the buy-in so it helps you to get more accurate feedback from the posters here. And my advice is based on a $10+$1 buy-in or less SnG, since I see huge raises like this routinely early in a tournament by players who have marginal hands.

onealx4 · #6 01-03-2005, 11:49 PM

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What buy-in?

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$5+.50 on Pokerstars..

Mr_J · #7 01-03-2005, 11:50 PM

You don't think this could be a guy blinded by his AA or KK and just raising huge?

Mr_J · #8 01-03-2005, 11:51 PM

Well he could have anything then. I guess 99-JJ is possible. What'd you do?

adanthar · #9 01-03-2005, 11:55 PM

I don't minraise, but if I did and this happened, I would push or fold PF. At a $5 I lean towards push, at a $50, fold.

Since you called, you evidently didn't think he had aces or kings which means you're not folding here. [Oh, you didn't think that far? Always have a plan for the hand.]

onealx4 · #10 01-03-2005, 11:56 PM

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Well he could have anything then. I guess 99-JJ is possible. What'd you do?

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Heres the gist of it:

Button (t1500)
SB (t1500)
BB (t1500)
UTG (t1500)
Hero (t1500)
MP1 (t1500)
MP2 (t1500)
MP3 (t1500)
CO (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG folds, Hero raises to t40, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button raises to t540, SB folds, BB folds, Hero calls t500.

Flop: (t1110) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets t220, Button raises to t960, Hero calls t740 (All-In).

Turn: (t3030) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t3030) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: t3030

Results in white below: 
Hero has As Ks (two pair, aces and kings).
Button has Qs Qc (straight, ace high).
Outcome: Button wins t3030.