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Old 12-26-2004, 11:21 PM
Upright Bill Upright Bill is offline
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Default Pocket Pair to a Set

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My normal mode with a small pocket pair is to see the flop and fold unless I make a set. The table has had 6 people to the flop consistently.

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Hero calls, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, SB folds, BB calls, Hero calls, MP2 calls, CO calls.

I have MP2 as loose aggressive agressive, CO is tight passive passive, Button is loose agressive passive, BB is loose passive passive.

Flop: (10.50 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls, CO calls, Button calls, BB calls.

Flopped my set. Everyone acted like they have all evening.

Turn: (7.75 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Button calls, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, MP2 calls, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button caps</font>, Hero calls, MP2 calls, CO calls.

I put CO on a pair of Q and assume MP2 and the Button are just excited.

River: (23.75 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 folds, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero calls $3.62 (All-In), CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, CO calls.

I bet for value, but expect everyone to fold. I couldn't be more wrong.

Final Pot: 34.18 BB

Results later.
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Old 12-27-2004, 12:21 AM
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Default Re: Pocket Pair to a Set

Did someone turn a set of queens?
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Old 12-27-2004, 12:58 AM
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Looks fine. Never start a hand with less than 12 BB's.
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Old 12-27-2004, 01:07 AM
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Default Re: Pocket Pair to a Set

Barring an unusually loose (6-8 seeing the flop) and passive table, I'm folding this UTG. Your plan of call and fold unimproved on the flop seems awfully -EV in the long run.

If it smells like pocket queens (preflop raise), and acts like pocket queens (the call, then cap on the river), I'd say it's pocket queens.

If I read him as a good TAG, I check-call the river.

Well played.
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Old 12-27-2004, 01:19 AM
KLGambiT KLGambiT is offline
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Default Re: Pocket Pair to a Set

Folding PF here is the best move, UTG with 44 cant be EV+
Also, I agree Jordan the raise preflop and hightened aggression with turned Q means he probably has you beat, its not likely he would play AQ this way i dont think
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Old 12-27-2004, 02:49 AM
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I wasn't sure about the preflop call either, but looking at his player descriptions, I think there's enough loose-passivity to justify limping with any PP in this spot.
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Old 12-27-2004, 03:26 AM
Upright Bill Upright Bill is offline
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Default Re: Pocket Pair to a Set

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Did someone turn a set of queens?

[/ QUOTE ]

No.
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Old 12-27-2004, 03:43 AM
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Default Re: Pocket Pair to a Set

Quote from orginal poster:
The table has had 6 people to the flop consistently

Easy limp. Not even close.

Brad
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Old 12-27-2004, 03:48 AM
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I usually do not limp this UTG unless I am very sure of many limpers, but if Shill says to play, it must be so!
[img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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Old 12-27-2004, 03:50 AM
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Nice avatar!

Homemade?

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