QQ against a fish.

ewile · #1 12-26-2004, 12:09 PM

mp2 is loose/passive pre and passive post

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
3 folds, MP2 raises, 2 folds, Button calls, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets, MP2 calls, Button calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, MP2 calls, Button folds.

Turn: (5.75 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, MP2 calls.

River: (7.75 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9.75 BB

I'd have definitly folded to a raise on the flop or turn.
Does anyone not showdown here?

chesspain · #2 12-26-2004, 12:21 PM

Checkcalling the river is horrible against this particular opponent.

P.S. Maybe you shouldn't be so condescending in your description of your opponents.

Kenshin · #3 12-26-2004, 12:36 PM

Yuck. I cannot imagine a truly passive player leading into you on the river with a hand you can beat in this situation.

The fold is easy as kiss of your hand

ewile · #4 12-26-2004, 02:41 PM

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Checkcalling the river is horrible against this particular opponent.

P.S. Maybe you shouldn't be so condescending in your description of your opponents.

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I actually feel bad because I respect you alot chesspain. I'm not a concescending guy in truth...I was more utilizing the icon designation in PT (which I think most of us now use) to describe my read on him.

Now I need to think about why the check/call on the river is so terrible.

smoore · #5 12-26-2004, 02:47 PM

The check-call on the river is throwing a bet away because this guy is so passive. If you're using bison/TT autorate rules, the fish icon is PASSIVE with a capital everything. You know he plays Ax and Kx, and rarely, if ever, bluffs. Those guys seem to back into runner runner flushes too because the're so loose. The two cards you didn't want to see with your QQ are out there, I save the bet.