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Old 12-24-2004, 02:59 AM
FrankLu99 FrankLu99 is offline
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Default Re: Barry G\'s motivation for publishing his book

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At least that is what I think Barry G wants us to think.

So..., Frankluu99, what I read into your post is, You know Didley Squat! [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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thanks captain obvious for telling me something I already knew since I was born.
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Old 12-24-2004, 04:08 AM
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Default Re: Barry G\'s motivation for publishing his book

Why does anyone do anything?

For one of two reasons (or both), fear or desire.

With this book Barry is looking for some public recognition of his skills and insight (desire) that maybe have not come his way as a cash game specialist and is worried about his "place in the game" (fear) - as his peers perceive it.
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Old 12-24-2004, 05:16 AM
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Default Re: Barry G\'s motivation for publishing his book

Hope you don't mind if I contribute to this thread, although it seems that some people don't trust my intentions. I think most of them were joking.

It's pretty simple actually: once I start on something I want to make it the best. It's part of my competitive nature. I have taken a lot of heat from people saying, "Why would you want to write this?" I'm sure that's what Doyle went through a long time ago. I doubt my book will have the impact that his did.

I admit that many poker books have provided a valuable service to their audience, but I am not part of that audience and neither are many of you. I have 30 poker books around me as I sit here in my office. I bought them after I wrote my book to see if anyone had written what I had. To my pleasant surprise, most of it was different and some of the advice was just the opposite. In the majority of cases, the writer just doesn't know what is involved in winning at the higher levels of poker. In some cases, the advice is right for their readers, but frankly, most of the time it is wrong because the writers really aren't good enough players, in my opinion anyway.

I have at times toyed with trashing my manuscript or just putting it up on the internet, but I want to compete for numbers in book sales. Again, that's just part of my competitive nature.

Several publishers have said I would make more money if I go with them. Up to this point, I have told every publisher that I am not at the point of thinking about making money from the book. My only thought on that is, if someone's going to make money from the book it might as well be me.

Barry
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Old 12-24-2004, 06:01 AM
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I'd buy Barry's book in a second, whether the money goes to charity or not. But while poker books and improving training software programs will, and probably have, improved the level of play of the average player, the idea that reading a book by a great player will make you a great player is unrealistic for most people, IMO.

There is a gap between reading great gaming strategy and being able to apply it at the tables. In Backgammon and Chess, players eager to improve have access to software that plays a virtually flawless game, and top notch analytical books by people who are the world's best players, and players improve, but rarely get good enough to be a top shelf competer themselves.

Frank
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Old 12-24-2004, 07:10 AM
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Default Re: Barry G\'s motivation for publishing his book

To Barry: I apologize for some of the scepticism displayed in this thread. While alot of the posters here love poker and take a deep interest in its development there are also many biases that are pervasive in any discussions on here. Most of the players have a loyalty to Sklansky and 2+2 and for good reason- 2+2 has produced about half the definitive works in poker publishing and that is an undeniable fact.
Sometimes however I believe that this loyalty as well intentioned as it might be serves to blur reality in some instances.

Guys, the fact is Greenspan is one of the top top top elite players in the world. He has made a fortune several times over in the hardest games on earth and is regarded by his peers as perhaps the winningest player in recent history in side games (last 5 yrs). The man is a poker genius. If he chose to concentrate solely on tournaments for a few years I have no doubt he would be a top 10-20 tourney player at any game.

What all this means is the poker playing community should take a keen interest in ANY and ALL information he wishes to share with us regardless of his motivations. I personally could care less about his ego or bank account or whatever other motivating factor you guys can come up with as long as the book gives us some ORIGINAL insight as to how the hardest games in the world operate and how a player with the skill of Barry thinks.
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Old 12-24-2004, 08:19 AM
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Guys, the fact is Greenspan is one of the top top top elite players in the world.

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http://www.federalreserve.gov/bios/greenspan.htm


Barron Vangor Toth
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Old 12-24-2004, 08:33 AM
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So, what you're saying is, this Barry "Greenspan" fellow knows a little bit about poker, huh? Thanks for the newsflash, champ.
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Old 12-24-2004, 01:32 PM
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Default Re: Barry G\'s motivation for publishing his book

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To Barry: I apologize for some of the scepticism displayed in this thread.

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Wait, this is your first post in this thread, right? So what are you apologizing for? Oh, you're apologizing on behalf of other posters? Who the hell gave you that authority?

Christ, you're sucking up to BG here at least as hard as you have recently accused others of sucking up to Fossilman.
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Old 12-24-2004, 02:53 PM
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Default Re: Barry G\'s motivation for publishing his book

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Why does anyone do anything?

For one of two reasons (or both), fear or desire.

With this book Barry is looking for some public recognition of his skills and insight (desire) that maybe have not come his way as a cash game specialist and is worried about his "place in the game" (fear) - as his peers perceive it.

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Yeh-Right. He's about as worried as the Energizer Rabbit's Batteries going dead. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]
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Old 12-24-2004, 04:42 PM
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Barry, I just read the "Amusing Anecdotes" you've added to your Player Analysis on your website. Too funny. You can turn THAT material into a book too. Good stuff. Keep writing.
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