A9 from SB: fish wakes up on the turn

runa · #1 12-17-2004, 01:33 PM

Villain is a Fish LP-P 75/4 AF .5

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Preflop: Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $2.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 1 fold, MP1 calls, 2 folds, CO (poster) checks, 1 fold, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 players)
Hero bets, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds, CO folds.

Turn: (3.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, UTG+1 raises, Hero ????

I hate it when this happens...

djoyce003 · #2 12-17-2004, 01:35 PM

really don't know. I whenever the low aggro factors raise you, you are usually beat by top two pair. However ,this guy could just have an ace that is even worse than yours. The pot is puny, probably best not to pursue things with a marginal hand.

Redeye · #3 12-17-2004, 01:45 PM

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How many hands is this over? There are some opponents that I've played against that are so passive that this would be a fairly easy laydown. However, I think you have to have a pretty good read on the opponent here to do so. If he's aggressive at all and just hit something like A3, then you've got lots of outs. Otherwise he easily could have AJ, 45, 22, 33 etc. which you would be pretty screwed against. If this is AF is for a decent number of hands and is also for post-flop only, I might be able to fold here.

runa · #4 12-17-2004, 01:46 PM

This isn't over a significant number of hands honestly. Its like 30-40 only, so I can't say its that accurate, but sometimes we have to go with what we have.

ErrantNight · #5 12-17-2004, 01:51 PM

just the PT read?

i'm tempted to give this up in this piddling lil pot...

but if he's playing 75% he could have something like J3s,, 32s, A3s, he could have an unlikely set...

I probably think about folding, call, and check out what comes on the river. I think it's close. Particularly since such a passive might check this behind me if I hit something and want to c/r him, he might just call and not raise if I hit and want to 3-bet, he might have, uh, pretty much anything and I don't know where I stand or what's good on the river.

All this sounds like argument for folding, really. So take my contradictory advice with a grain of salt.

adamstewart · #6 12-17-2004, 01:54 PM

Fold the turn. He's waited for the Big Bet's to punish you. Either that, or he's caught two pair, a set, or a straight.

Just my thoughts ...

Adam

Mike28a · #7 12-17-2004, 02:00 PM

With a small pot like this, why bother to try and hit one of very few likely outs? This other guy has to have A3, 33, or 45 (suited, of course). Fold.

runa · #8 12-17-2004, 03:54 PM

Everyone seems to be leaning towards folding. 6.5 BB isn't terribly small is it? I just hate the possiblity of getting blown off the best hand HU by a loose/relative unknown, but given the texture of the board there isn't alot he has right now that I want to redraw to beat.

runa · #9 12-17-2004, 03:58 PM

I didn't fold...but this is how it played out on the river.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $2.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 1 fold, MP1 calls, 2 folds, CO (poster) checks, 1 fold, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 players)
Hero bets, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds, CO folds.

Turn: (3.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, UTG+1 raises, Hero calls.

River: (7.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9.50 BB

adamstewart · #10 12-17-2004, 04:06 PM

and the results?