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New NL player, needs advice
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.5 BB (8 handed) converter
Hero ($42.25) BB ($69.23) UTG ($20.75) UTG+1 ($18.95) MP1 ($25) MP2 ($33.55) CO ($10) Button ($25.5) Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $0.5. UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $0.50, MP1 calls $0.50, MP2 calls $0.50, CO (poster) checks, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $3</font>, BB folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls $2.50, MP2 folds, CO folds. Flop: ($8) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, MP1 calls $3. Turn: ($14) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $10</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $19 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls $9. River: ($52) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font> Final Pot: $52 Just wondering what you all would have done in this situation. Thanks. |
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Re: New NL player, needs advice
you're fine. maybe raise more preflop seeing as you're out of position, but that's really player dependant. definitely bet more on the flop, you're giving implied odds to the guy holding a one pair draw to two pair and making him think you don't have a hand worth playing back at. bet pot on the flop and hope to get raised all-in by a dominated Q.
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Re: New NL player, needs advice
Raise a bit more preflop, raise near pot sized on flop if its not too scary.
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Re: New NL player, needs advice
6x the bb is plenty high preflop in most all games
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Re: New NL player, needs advice
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6x the bb is plenty high preflop in most all games [/ QUOTE ] Even with the limpers? |
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Re: New NL player, needs advice
Usually I raise 4x the BB if I'm first in or with one limper, but I figured 6x would be enough for the people with crap to dump there hands...but I don't think it was enough. The villian had 22 and hit his set on the flop.
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Re: New NL player, needs advice
Get used to people calling with crap, preflop and postflop, at that level. These are bad players because they call with marginal hands. Don't feed them by bluffing at them (especially more than 1) with worse hands when they'll make the "mistake" of calling. Beat them by getting off big card hands if you don't improve, value-betting if you do, and benefit from getting to see a lot of cheap cards on drawing hands. You usually have to show down a winner to win a pot. Get money in when you're ahead, don't put money in when you're behind (without drawing odds, obv). Fold equity against more than 1 player is so low that bluffs are usually huge -EV at that level.
If you raise with QQ and get 4 callers, and the flop is A-7-3, check and fold unless they fold it to you in LP. People play bad aces to make pairs of Aces with bad kickers. You aren't going to run them off that pair, so trying is futile. The game changes some at higher levels, but you still see people who play any ace and call down with any pair of aces. Smash them by catching a better hand, don't feed them by paying them with a worse one. |
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Re: New NL player, needs advice
you want to raise the maximum that you feel people will call. if you can push preflop in that position and get called, do it.
using standard sized preflop raises from all positions is a good way to get started, but there are (many) instances where raising the amount that will accomplish what you want it to is the better way to go. |
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Re: New NL player, needs advice
Your preflop raise was fine as was your turn action. You should have bet more than $3 on the flop ($6 to $8 sounds a lot better). With $8 in the pot, you are giving a hand like JT attractive odds to hit a straight (You offer 11:3, while the odds to hit are 39:8 but comes with implied odds). Heck, anyone with a piece of it will take a card off to see if they can hit trips or 2nd pair.
Words to go by: Sets happen. Just be thankful he only had $25 to start with and didn't have you covered. You really don't want people to fold all their crap with AA preflop, but you do want to narrow the field to 2 or 3 players. The only case 22 is folding is if you raise too much which isn't what you want. Garland |
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Re: New NL player, needs advice
Bet more on flop, put opponent short stack all-in on turn.
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