Lost most of my stack on this one. Help Please!

[partygirluk]

He really turned over JJ, and MHIG.
I decided to lie in my initial response as I think this forum has a tendency to say "It was obvious he had you beat, so fold". OK, so the solution is not to post results. However, as a general rule people are only posting hands that they lost on. So a fair whack of Two Plus Two ers populate the MTT forum and advise accordingly.

In this hand, after his UTG raise call, and this flop, we are probably tied at worst, and he likely has 2 outs against us (3 if he has a worse King). If we bet the flop, we won't get any action from JJ/QQ/TT/AQ. So I think it is worth giving him a four percent chance to suck out, given that I have a high probability of C/R him out of an extra 300 or so chips on the flop.

The turn does not really change things. You really think he might have 87? Really? This is a 500 FPP tourney, and this is a MUST call in such events, given the action. I am disappointed in most of you.

[Sam T.]

I, for one (and it sounds like I'm about the only one), don't mind the check on the flop. What cards are out there that you are afraid of? If he's on a pocket pair, he's got two outs. The only other problem cards are the three that make his random two pair if he's sitting on Kx. Is this what people are nervous about? I undestand protecting your hand, and yes it is a risk, but you also need to build a stack.

Here's proof I wasn't just being a results merchant (what does that mean?): While I realize that a FPP tournament is different than a regular tournament, and I'm glad it worked out for you, I'm still not sure I like the call of his push.

[sahaguje]

It's not because you won the hand that it means you played it right. Even a very bad player understands that your preflop reraise, out of position, means you have a strong hand. You have shown great strenght preflop, there is 650 in the pot, you definitely have to bet the flop here. If you dont, you are giving up way too much ; not because you give a free card, but because your bets wont get much respect when you missed your flop. You should bet with AK, AQ, TT and many other hands.

By checking the flop after your reraise, you dont indicate weakness, but strenght, or maybe a mediocre hand (for that flop) that does not mind giving a free card, such as QQ. So if you get checkraised on turn by a lesser hand, there is a good chance your opponent would have been bad enough to call a 400 flop bet. Betting the flop and checking the turn is much better ; there you really represent a good hand that missed the flop, and can therefore induce a bluff. And if you decide to check the flop, why dont you also check the turn ? There is a good chance your opponent will bet, not only with JJ, but with much lesser hands.

To sum up, I dont like your play at all. You have to "integrate" your game. Checking the flop when you have reraised preflop, are heads'up, and first to act, is bad poker, except if you are against a really excellent player and need to be very tricky. And if you check, betting the turn then calling an all-in raise is even worse. If you think your opponent will bluff for sure, check.

By the way, asking for help, then insulting the posters who have tried to help you is not very good ethics. Among the "weaktight results merchants", there are excellent players, who took time to think about your hand, and give their comments. They dont need to be taught a lesson by a 500 FPP tourney player who won a hand by playing poorly. You are not forced to give the result when you ask for help on a hand. But giving a false result, then making fun of the posters who were "wrong", is just silly.

That being said, I wish you good luck.

sahaguje.

[slickpoppa]

Sam the reason why you bet the flop is because some people (especially in FPP tournaments) will call the flop with anything. However, on the turn they tend to tighten up, unless of course they picked up their crap two pair. You must profit from their curiosity.

[zaxx19]

Um, Is losing all your chips in a battle for a nothing pot ~55-57% of the time smart?? iunno, depends on how horrible you are at playing MTT with a normal stack. There seems to be some on this board who really only feel cumfy with a big stack and cant imagine playing in a tourney with less than 40XBB, if thats you probably you need to take any 42%+ shot you can to double up. How can you assume an AJ or AQ who only raised a small bit preflop in EP would call your "double up or bust" preflop reraise as often as AA KK QQ JJ or AKs?? That just specious and incorrect. It is funny how people assume AA KK cant be out there bc you have one of each while the probabilty IS lower just the fact that there is a EP raise probably evens out the probabililty of a huge hand being in there.

In fact I know it is just like common knowledge you HAVE TO reraise here but Im not sure I like the reraise here. Anybody ahead QQ AKs JJ KK AA probably reraises you here and puts yu to a pretty tough decision (tough for me not tough for alot of players here I suppose) and with it only being raised 200 the pot is laying him good odds too call with set value to break you since he can pretty much put you on AA JJ or AK correct??(I think KK or QQ needs to raise more than this here) The checkraise would be much more effective if you smoothcalled infact if the villain had KQ or KJ (ep raise with these yikes) it could break him. The point is you got greedy by throwing a raise you knew would get called out there and thats why a pp called and had a chance to break you. Either raise to 450+ or smooth call and control the pot size with this hand that is easily read and easily beat in situations like these.

[KJS]

First rule of checkraising: Be sure your opponent will bet. What did you put them on that would bet?

KJS