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Old 12-09-2004, 07:49 PM
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Default Re: TT monoflop decision with 3rd nut flush draw.

The likelyhood of a freecard is very small, the guy checkraised the flop in a big field?

If that doesnt cry flush I dont know what does.
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Old 12-09-2004, 07:53 PM
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Default Re: TT monoflop decision with 3rd nut flush draw.

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The likelyhood of a freecard is very small, the guy checkraised the flop in a big field?

If that doesnt cry flush I dont know what does.

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But the only likely hand he could have raised preflop to have a made flush would be KJ diamond.

I put the original raiser on TPTK, no diamonds.

I just call the raise and hope my flush is good if it hits.
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Old 12-09-2004, 07:53 PM
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I'm not sure what I would do on the flop but here are my thoughts on the hand so far.

MP2 probobly had big unsuited cards pf. Since he didn't cap you, I'm going to rule out KK or AA.

If he checked w/the intention of raising you, he's probobly got a likely hand of KQ, QJ, KJ, AK, AJ w/one of those being a diamond. This is a bad situation for you b/c you may be slightly ahead if he's got overcards that haven't hit w/a flushdraw or way behind of a higher pair and no flush draw outs.

QQ is also a possibility but I'd tend to discount it b/c of the Q on the board.

The pot is obviously way too big to fold so I'm leaning toward calling the flop. The turn becomes tricky though b/c he's likely to bet again and you could very well be drawing dead or to 2 outs.
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Old 12-09-2004, 08:14 PM
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Default Re: TT monoflop decision with 3rd nut flush draw.

oops yeah I should probably check preflop action before I make dumb statements.

I'd probably say he has AQ to checkraise or yeah TPTK if he thinks soeone will get excited with Kd.
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Old 12-09-2004, 08:14 PM
Ralph Wiggum Ralph Wiggum is offline
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Default Re: TT monoflop decision with 3rd nut flush draw.

I don't see the benefit of 3-betting. I'd call and hit a T or [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
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Old 12-09-2004, 08:20 PM
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Default Re: TT monoflop decision with 3rd nut flush draw.

One thing I forgot to mention is why bet the flop?

You are clearly behind.
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Old 12-09-2004, 08:22 PM
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Default Re: TT monoflop decision with 3rd nut flush draw.

One thing I forgot to mention is why bet the flop?

You are clearly behind.


Cause I have the 3rd nut flush draw in a big field and the possibility to take a free card on the turn?

I thought it was a clear bet.
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Old 12-09-2004, 08:25 PM
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Default Re: TT monoflop decision with 3rd nut flush draw.

Yea, seems clear to me. Also (and I know we love to rag on this reason) the bet can give you some valuble information. I, like the others, don't think a 3-bet is a goo didea.
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Old 12-09-2004, 08:33 PM
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Default Re: TT monoflop decision with 3rd nut flush draw.

okay, well, let's move ahead to the river.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. MP3 posts a blind of $3. Hero posts a blind of $3.
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, MP3 (poster) calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero (poster) 3-bets</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (19.33 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
UTG checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button folds, UTG calls, MP1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, MP3 folds, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (12.66 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Hero calls, UTG folds.

River: (14.66 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>...
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Old 12-09-2004, 08:35 PM
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Default Re: TT monoflop decision with 3rd nut flush draw.

I like. You can fold to a 3-bet, he won't do it with the 9.


Hmmm, actually I'm not so sure anymore against an unknown.
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