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12-09-2004, 04:00 PM
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Re: Bob Ciaffone is not respected
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I just read a thread that said that Bob Ciaffone is not respected much at two plus two forums. Why? [/ QUOTE ] He gives simplistic, weak-tight advice, and has little knowledge of limit poker. 
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#3
12-09-2004, 04:34 PM
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Re: Bob Ciaffone is not respected
Don't believe it. His books are very fundamentally sound.
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12-09-2004, 05:12 PM
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Re: Bob Ciaffone is not respected
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Don't believe it. His books are very fundamentally sound. [/ QUOTE ] His Improve Your Poker is great, Middle Limit Fold'em is however insanely weak-tight, laying down non-nut flush draws for one bet in an average 20/40 game is not good poker. All of Middle Limit Fold'em makes perfect sense, for NO limit, not for limit.
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12-09-2004, 06:15 PM
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Re: Bob Ciaffone is not respected
Middle Limit Holdem is one of the best books out there, dont talk rubbish.
Sure some parts are a bit weak-tight but he is talking about playing against good opponents not your average chimp.
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#7
12-09-2004, 06:30 PM
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Re: Bob Ciaffone is not respected
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Middle Limit Holdem is one of the best books out there, dont talk rubbish. Sure some parts are a bit weak-tight but he is talking about playing against good opponents not your average chimp. [/ QUOTE ] There are plenty of chimps left at middle limits. And good players in hold'em don't always have the nuts or a nut draw when they bet, which Ciaffone seems to think. (Actually many of the chimps are more likely to have the nuts when betting than good opponents are.) Search the forums for endless discussions on the 'merits' of folding a non-nut flush draw for a single bet. Iirc Mason said he folds in less than half of the cases Ciaffone advocated folding. Edit: All that said, MLH is the third most thought provocative book I've read, and is probably also the third most important book for improving my hold'em. Not because I agree with Ciaffone, but because I so often disagree and their reasoning is well laid out. I've argued many of the hands with the book.
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#8
12-09-2004, 06:33 PM
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Re: Bob Ciaffone is not respected
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I just read a thread that said that Bob Ciaffone is not respected much at two plus two forums. Why? [/ QUOTE ] Why don't you link the thread so we can see exactly who is(are) making these comments. I can find threads on 2+2 that claim Sklansky and Malmuth are wrong, but the posters are less than credible...
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