god, this is horrible

Gravy (Gravy Smoothie) · #1 12-08-2004, 12:48 PM

I feel like I did nothing but spew chips this whole hand. Help me on the flop and turn!!

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $0.5.
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls, CO (poster) checks, Button calls, SB folds, BB checks.

Flop: (8.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (8 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+2 bets, MP1 calls, MP2 raises, Hero 3-bets, CO calls, Button calls, BB folds, UTG folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls.

Turn: (12.25 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
UTG+2 bets, MP2 calls, Hero calls, CO calls, Button raises, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls, CO calls.

River: (22.25 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 players)
UTG+2 checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks, CO checks, Button bets, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls, CO folds.

Final Pot: 26.25 BB

GrunchCan · #2 12-08-2004, 12:54 PM

I dunno, I think your domminated or beat more often than 5 times out of 6 on the flop, and I let it go. If you had QJ instead of JT, then I'd 3-bet.

John Paul · #3 12-08-2004, 01:06 PM

Preflop is fine, the flop action is crazy, especially considering that no one raised preflop. Any reads on these folks?

I don't think the 3-bet was a good idea. You have top pair and running straight and flush draws, but your kicker is not so good for top pair. Also, I am learning that there are a lot of folks who will slop play AA - 99 preflop on party .5/1. Almost everyone is facing 2 cold except for the original better, the raiser and MP1, so I don't think your 3-bet is needed to drive folks out.

On the turn and the river, I would have done the same thing, but I am trying to learn not to. On the turn your flush and straight draws are gone, so you are really just betting on your pair. UTG+2 bet out after being 3 bet, so unless he is a total nutcase, he must have at least a J as well, and probably a better kicker. MP2 could still be on a straight and/or flush draw. I think you should have folded on the first bet and if not then on the raise. You really don't have any clean outs. Someone else likely has a J, and a T could complete a lot of draws, particularly if it is a heart.

On the river you have to ask if you have a 4% chance of winning, and my guess is no, but I would have a hard time folding after all of that.

What did these folks have?

Gravy (Gravy Smoothie) · #4 12-08-2004, 01:19 PM

4th place: MP2, with Jd9d
3rd place: Hero, with JsTs
2nd place: UTG+2, with AsAd (nice hand!!)

and the winner is...(drum roll please)
1st place: Button, with Ac2c (I particularly liked when he called 3 cold on the flop)

ucfryan · #5 12-08-2004, 01:21 PM

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1st place: Button, with Ac2c (I particularly liked when he called 3 cold on the flop)

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He had bottom pair BUT he had an ace, which obviously is worthy of coldcalling 3, if not capping.

Gravy (Gravy Smoothie) · #6 12-08-2004, 01:24 PM

Not to mention a draw to the nut...I mean a backdoor dr-...nevermind.

davebytheway · #7 12-08-2004, 03:07 PM

And just to add insult to injury, you were in 4th place, not 3rd:

MP2 had Jacks and Nines, which beats your Jacks and Twos...

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mcozzy1 · #8 12-08-2004, 03:53 PM

Fold on the flop.

on_thg · #9 12-09-2004, 11:52 AM

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Fold on the flop.

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Fold before you get out of bed in the morning.

Rah · #10 12-09-2004, 12:44 PM

There is no way you are ahead after a bet and a raise. Fold immediately.