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Old 12-07-2004, 11:57 AM
Ka Boom Ka Boom is offline
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Default ACE - rag suited in SB with a button raise

all folded to button..u got Ace rag suited.

Raise or fold?

new game..no info on button raiser.
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Old 12-07-2004, 12:04 PM
Grisgra Grisgra is offline
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Default Re: ACE - rag suited in SB with a button raise

Fold -- not even close.
My default when sitting down at the table is to play tighter than usual, get a feel for who I'm up against.

That said, this is normally a fold anyway, but if I learn that the button is an aggressive auto-stealer from there, then I might 3-bet.

90% of the time, though, this is a fold.
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Old 12-07-2004, 12:15 PM
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Default Re: ACE - rag suited in SB with a button raise

Yeh I fold, avg steal for players at 5/10 is only 10-15% they don't even know to raise crappy hands on the button.
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Old 12-08-2004, 11:01 AM
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Default Re: ACE - rag suited in SB with a button raise

What about in the 10/20? Im 3betting here a fair bit and I think it might be a leak. Thoughts?

-Mike
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Old 12-08-2004, 01:48 PM
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Default Re: ACE - rag suited in SB with a button raise

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Yeh I fold, avg steal for players at 5/10 is only 10-15% they don't even know to raise crappy hands on the button.

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if all you know about a player is he's seated at 5/10 that's a reasonable estimate but if all you know is he's seated at 5/10 AND he's just attempted a steal then a better estimate is > 25%

Axs definitely playable in that spot.
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Old 12-08-2004, 02:03 PM
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Default Re: ACE - rag suited in SB with a button raise

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What about in the 10/20? Im 3betting here a fair bit and I think it might be a leak. Thoughts?


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Seems overaggressive to me, at least for the lower rags, without a read. If your opponent is a steal-with-any-two type, then pop him back, sure. But against the garden variety somewhat tricky LAGish 10/20 player, and you're out of position, BB yet to act, I think it's a fold.

I'm open to being shown I'm wrong, though.

B.
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Old 12-08-2004, 03:31 PM
Michael Davis Michael Davis is offline
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Default Re: ACE - rag suited in SB with a button raise

Threebets.

-Michael
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