fold the river?

turnipmonster · #1 12-02-2004, 01:59 AM

all my opponents were extremely loose preflop. however, the cap out of the blinds almost always means a big hand. I can't fold the flop or turn with the nut flush draw, but given I felt I was "drawing" I felt I should have folded the river, except it was a large pot so I paid it off with the always ugly overcall. thoughts?

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG folds, MP calls, CO folds, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, BB caps, MP calls, Hero calls, SB calls.

Flop: (16 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets, MP calls, Hero calls, SB calls.

Turn: (10 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets, MP calls, Hero calls, SB calls.

River: (14 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets, MP calls, Hero calls, SB calls.

Final Pot: 18 BB

joker122 · #2 12-02-2004, 02:02 AM

consider raising the flop. easy river fold imo.

turnipmonster · #3 12-02-2004, 10:48 AM

I agree, easy fold. I play bad.

--turnipmonster

djoyce003 · #4 12-02-2004, 11:39 AM

it's an easy fold imo. MP Calls, what is he calling with? I'm guessing the BB has a big ace or the flush, and MP and the SB are calling with aces with bad kickers. Your kings are no good, save the bet for another day. Your kings are pretty much never good with multiple seeing the flop when an ace hits.

ChessMan · #5 12-02-2004, 08:53 PM

Easy raise and reraise if possible on the flop.

If there's still 4 people on the turn, one of them very likely has an ace.

On the river, if there's still someone betting, and in addition to that someone else is still calling, you should be very confident there's an ace out there. Just fold.