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Post deleted by Mat Sklansky
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Re: Playing QQ w/ a trickster
To really show weakness on the flop I would only bet like $3.
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Re: Playing QQ w/ a trickster
Wow... This was played poorly, but you still got it all in, so what do I know.
[ QUOTE ] Who folds at the end to the big bet? The BB was a pretty trick opponent and cold-calling the PFR could mean AA. [/ QUOTE ] I don't. his all in is near pot sized anyways, so it's not too much of a bet. Do you really think he has Aces or Quads more than 67% of the time? I expect to win far far more often than that. [ QUOTE ] How was my line... I was trying to show weakness on the flop, hoping he would try and smother me. I would then cold call his bet and checkraise the turn since I had position on him. [/ QUOTE ] Do you really make weak bets with weak hands? If he has come over the top of these weak bets before then fine, bet 1/6 the pot, but in reality, I'm betting more. 2 reasons... 1 - You're not going to like seeing another broadway fall. (And really, an Ace pairing isn't a great card, if he'd cold call your raise with AK or so) I doubt he has specifically diamonds either, but it could slow turn action, and make you guess. 2 - In general when there's a PFR and an ace falls you're either going to get action or you're not. It's not worth getting cute for 5 dollars when if you'd bet more he'd call, even if he would call a smaller % of the time. (I know that was worded badly, but I hope the message was conveyed) So - bet more on the flop. And; dont fold a set with 75bbs. Given you bet small on the flop and he min raises you on the turn, I think I prefer calling and calling any river. 3betting there can make him go away from a few hands which he'd call you on the riv with. (And if he checks or doesnt bet all in, get the rest in) |
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Re: Playing QQ w/ a trickster
a) lapoker is joking;
b) you bet bigger on the flop so you have a larger "pot to bet at" on the later betting rounds. bet sizes increase multiplicatively, and when you flop a set you'd like to see them increasing in large enough increments that you get all of your chips in the middle. he either has a hand that he can call a reasonable bet with or he doesn't: there's really no point in betting small unless your opponent is a cynosure of predictability and automatically reraises weakish bets and continues betting strongthroughout the hand irrespective of your actions (I've never met a player this stupid). as the other dude said, with 75bb stacks, unless you have one helluva read, you are not folding a set to a possible higher set or quads. |
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Re: Playing QQ w/ a trickster
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Who folds at the end to the big bet? [/ QUOTE ] i would. p.s. i don't like money. p.p.s. the mid-, high- snobs will harass you for posting party 2/4 hands here. what's that you say? that 2/4 party is the biggest game on what is by far the biggest site? yes, um, that's true. (sarcasm aside, thanks to all the high-stakes players who still post on the small stakes forum). |
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Re: Playing QQ w/ a trickster
Hey Fight,
I can't put into words how poor the $5 bet on the flop is. It's tough to comment on the rest of the hand, becacuse ideally, you would like enough money in there to reraise the turn, because a flush card might kill your river action. I guess calling the turn is OK. And, of course, you call the river. Hope it worked out. ML4L |
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Re: Playing QQ w/ a trickster
Bet more on the flop. Then bet appropriately on the turn. If you're trying to get him to come over the top on the flop, and you have reason to think he'll do so, it's less bad, but I prefer just betting a decent amount.
If you get to the river the way you did, call. Folding here would be just awful. Like, terrible. Don't do it. Seriously. You have the 3rd nuts, and nothing in the previous betting says you're worse than 2:1 to win here. If I had a note on the opponent that said "won't go all-in with less than quads" I'd most likely think "that's from too small a sample-size" and call. Don't spend your time thinking about how to get away from this hand, spend it thinking about how to get your money in the middle. |
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Re: Playing QQ w/ a trickster
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If you get to the river the way you did, call. Folding here would be just awful. Like, terrible. Don't do it. Seriously. You have the 3rd nuts, and nothing in the previous betting says you're worse than 2:1 to win here. If I had a note on the opponent that said "won't go all-in with less than quads" I'd most likely think "that's from too small a sample-size" and call. [/ QUOTE ] What is his range of hands here? He can have 66 or AA where he does that on the river. Possibly AQ, but unlikely. I don't think he would do that with AK. I don't like the flop bet at all, because all it does is show your opponent that you have a monster if you show interest in the hand, and a weak hand if you don't. Pot the flop and pay AA off. If he calls, you can decide how to get the rest of the money in. The way this hand was played, I think he knows you have a big hand, and that you will pay him off. |
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