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Old 11-27-2004, 12:05 PM
pyroponic pyroponic is offline
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Default Playing pocket jacks in NL cash game

I'm in an loose $0.25/$0.50 ring game on stars, dealt JJ one off the button. Practically the whole table limps so I play decide to limp to play the jacks for set value, but when my pair is an overpair to the pair I raise very aggressively to protect my hand. Did I go overboard postflop or should I have raised preflop?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed)

UTG ($26.10)
UTG+1 ($38.25)
MP1 ($5.05)
MP2 ($20.30)
MP3 ($16.25)
Hero ($40.55)
Button ($100.15)
SB ($19)
BB ($49.50)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.50, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls $0.50, MP2 calls $0.50, MP3 calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, Button calls $0.50, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($4) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(8 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="CC3333">BB bets $2</font>, UTG folds, MP1 calls $2, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $2, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls $2, MP1 calls $2, MP3 calls $2.

Turn: ($20) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="CC3333">MP1 bets $0.55 (All-In)</font>, MP3 calls $0.55, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, BB folds, MP3 folds.

River: ($25.10) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $25.10
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Old 11-27-2004, 03:43 PM
creedofhubris creedofhubris is offline
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Default Re: Playing pocket jacks in NL cash game

Raise those jacks preflop.

Postflop play is fine.
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Old 11-27-2004, 04:01 PM
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Default Re: Playing pocket jacks in NL cash game

dont minraise ever
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Old 11-27-2004, 06:20 PM
Ghazban Ghazban is offline
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Default Re: Playing pocket jacks in NL cash game

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dont minraise ever

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Amen to that-- I can't think of a single time when minraising in a cash game at these stakes is a good idea.
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Old 11-27-2004, 06:38 PM
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Default Re: Playing pocket jacks in NL cash game

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dont minraise ever

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Amen to that-- I can't think of a single time when minraising in a cash game at these stakes is a good idea.

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Maybe if the minraise puts you all in?
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Old 11-27-2004, 07:33 PM
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Default Re: Playing pocket jacks in NL cash game

Raise preflop. You almost certainly have the best hand. And it's easy to get away from on a bad flop.

Postflop make real raises, not that crappy 1/6 pot stuff.
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Old 11-27-2004, 08:55 PM
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Default Re: Playing pocket jacks in NL cash game

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dont minraise ever

[/ QUOTE ]Oh, come on - no need to be so melodramatic. In the right spots, it's a great play. I can think of a many times when you can min-raise successfully. The min-raise here, though, was not one of those times...

I am always wary of anyone who tells you that doing "x" *ever* is a bad thing...
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Old 11-27-2004, 09:22 PM
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Default Re: Playing pocket jacks in NL cash game

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dont minraise ever

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I am always wary of anyone who tells you that doing "x" *ever* is a bad thing...

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oh come on, dont be so literal.
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Old 11-28-2004, 02:37 AM
creedofhubris creedofhubris is offline
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Default Re: Playing pocket jacks in NL cash game

Oh yeah, I was reading fast and didn't notice the minraise. Good point. Minraises should be used extremely sparingly. I do use them occasionally, but this is not such an occasion.
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Old 11-28-2004, 04:43 PM
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Default Re: Playing pocket jacks in NL cash game

I posted a hand with JJ recently as well, maybe what people said about my play would help you, let me get the link

JJ hand
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