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Old 11-25-2004, 09:30 AM
helpmeout helpmeout is offline
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Q9o is significantly better than a random hand so I think its definately a value raise.

BB would also put you on an Ace most times so he might fold his K high when you both miss.
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Old 11-25-2004, 09:43 AM
Guy McSucker Guy McSucker is offline
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Default Re: #2

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Q9o is significantly better than a random hand so I think its definately a value raise.


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It wins 55% against one random hand.

I think out of position you need to know that you play better than your opponent, or that he folds often, to show a profit from this raise.

Guy.
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Old 11-27-2004, 01:02 PM
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Default Re: Preflop hands II

[img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] I made all same decisions before I read your post. I seldom raise 8 though.
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Old 11-27-2004, 01:10 PM
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Default Re: Preflop hands II

You fold 4? I assume the later limper hold weak, unless I have a read on him.
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Old 11-27-2004, 06:50 PM
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could someone post a link to that gocee.com or whatever site where the guy ran every hand against 1-9 random hands?
Thanks
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Old 11-27-2004, 06:56 PM
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Default Re: Preflop hands II

I gather we assume no limpers if you haven't mentioned any?

EDIT: Never mind, seems to be the common assumption.
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Old 11-27-2004, 07:01 PM
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Default Re: Preflop hands II

1. Q8s button -- Usually raise, fold if I fear/respect the blinds.

2. Q9o SB -- Raise 75%, complete 25%

3. 43s SB 2 limpers -- ALWAYS complete

4. A3o SB 1 late limper -- Complete

5. K6s in CO or button -- Fold CO, Raise button

6. K2s SB 2 limpers -- Complete

7. T8s button -- Raise if I've been running well/blinds are on the tight end of things, otherwise fold fold fold

8. A9s SB 2limpers -- raise

9. T9s SB button raise -- WOW. Close. I probably fold. But it's close.

10. A5s button 1 limper -- yeeks. I'll wuss out and say it's table-dependent. Yeah, that's it.

Thanks for your responses.
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Old 11-27-2004, 07:05 PM
Grisgra Grisgra is offline
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Too tight man. You have to play your suited connectors and your K-high suited trash from the SB for 3/5s of a bet.
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