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Old 11-24-2004, 04:52 PM
MicroBob MicroBob is offline
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Default Re: Pokeroom Reload Bonus $150 MAX/15% -THANKS

If it's $21k of play at BJ (I'll trust your math on this):

Let's see.....
2 hands of $10 each....maybe 150 rounds per hour (if you are making your decisions quickly) for 300 total hands per hour = $3k per hour.

Okay...that falls a little bit short.

Maybe 3 hands of $10 each at 150 rounds an hour = 450 total hands per hour = $4.5k/hr.
This would clear the bonus in less than 5 hours.


Not sure how quickly one can typically play BJ online....but 300 rounds per hour at $5/hd also wouldn't surprise me either.

there is no shuffle time and you are just playing basic-strategy (not sitting there agonizing over each decision like a regular casino BJ player), etc etc.

The BJ aspect is interesting.....and if it gets you in the top 40 for the points thing too then maybe it is worth it.
Time-wise it seems like a decent-move.
I might consider doing it that way....but I'm not positive yet.
Even with the time-saved I just hate playing a game that I know is -EV (even though it becomes +EV with the bonus).
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Old 11-24-2004, 04:58 PM
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All of this stuff is already in the thread actually.

2/4 full-ring is kinda tight sometimes. I think the 5-max games are pretty decent though.
And there are even enough idiots on the full-ring games to keep me reasonably happy most of the time.

Clearing bonuss at 2/4 should be decent.
Not fantastic....but okay. Probably somewhere around the same as clearing a bonus at Stars I guess (maybe faster...probably not much slower though....not really sure).

They don't offer that many reloads.

60-day expiry-date to clear the bonuses.

If you play a bunch of hands in one-day you might get extra-cash as one of the top-50 points-earners which can add to your bonus.

The points can also be used to buy into different tourneys including a $6k-freeroll on Saturday......and sometimes they let you use them to buy into their $20+2, $10k (or $15k or whatever) guaranteed.

So you're not JUST clearing the bonus.....you can use the points for something too.

Someone just mentioned that they opened their pokerroom store so maybe you can buy merchandise with the points instead of you prefer.

Cardplayer HAD the best sign-up bonus (40% up to $200) so check at their website and see if they still offer it (I think they still had it a month or two ago).
Otherwise the sign-up bonus is probably 20% to $100 or something.
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Old 11-24-2004, 05:20 PM
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I was more concerned with time (despite 60 days to clear it) so I upped my bet levels as well as variance. Also played Party simultaneously, which I don't recommend because bj and poker hands don't mix.

Started with $10 and $20 bets (that went up to $40 and $60) spread across two to five spots. I was very aggressive, always doubling on 11 and often on 10 if the dealer didn't show a 10. Many times that would just break me even. Sometimes the dealer would win all the hands, sometimes he'd bust.

Then went on a nasty streak that dropped me to $335 from a high of $1300 ($1000 deposit). Definitely not for the faint of heart. I considered giving up, but I was close to getting enough points for the $6K freeroll.

Cursing comes through on Pokerroom, so I uttered a string of expletives whenever the dealer hit 21 (which seemed often). Later my chat stopped showing up, and I think they might've removed my chat privileges as I was scaring away other players (though I never cursed at them, just at the dealer).

I then stuck with a $40 bet in one spot for the final hour and was somehow able to push the $335 to $1400. From $335 to $1000 was tough -- I kept seesawing. But I sailed from $1000 to $1400. Though it makes no difference, I did better when I played by myself and other players weren't at the table.

I immediately cashed out once the bonus hit and will also cashout the bonus money I get for the day.

I've always done Pokerroom's bonuses in blackjack with mixed results. I'm either up or down a lot. I'm glad this time it worked favorably.


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Old 11-24-2004, 05:45 PM
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Playing bj at Pokerroom is slower than other casino sites because of other players at your table. Not to mention my impatience when you see them agonizing over a $1 bet, as well as splitting 10s with a dealer showing a 10. I hate seeing basic strategy not being used, even though it has no effect on your own hand.

Taking up all the seats solves this, but also increases your variance.

I just checked and I'm still in the top 10 for the day and should get in the $30-38 range. (At most other sites, you would get $21 for a $21,000 playthrough.)

Also received the three freerolls, if I can just remember to play them.

In my opinion, whoring via bj is very much worth it.

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Old 11-24-2004, 05:56 PM
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Default Re: Pokeroom Reload Bonus $150 MAX/15% -THANKS

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Can anyone post a link to this bonus. I can't find anything on their site.

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Anyone?
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Old 11-24-2004, 07:01 PM
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Default Re: Pokeroom Reload Bonus $150 MAX/15% -THANKS

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I was very aggressive, always doubling on 11 and often on 10 if the dealer didn't show a 10.

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I don't know what's so aggressive about this. Doubling on 11 or 10 in these situations is basic-strategy.

If you were only 'often' doubling on ten when the dealer showed less than 10 then that implies that you were 'occasionally' not doubling in these situations which is a mistake.


Didn't know the BJ hands went so slowly there. I certainly wouldn't be interested in betting $20 or $40 per hand there.


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Taking up all the seats solves this, but also increases your variance.

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I don't believe this is correct unless there is some rule about having to increase the size of your bet if you take up all the seats?
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Old 11-24-2004, 07:14 PM
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You're correct, I should have applied that all the time, but I backed off the more I lost. Meant to also include splitting and doubling down hands 11 and below when dealer showed 4-6.

Could be mistaken about variance, but assumed more bets out there increases it (even if same value)?
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Old 11-24-2004, 07:26 PM
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If you're going to bet 20k hands at $1 apiece (for example) then it really doesn't matter a whole lot for your variance whether you bet them 1 at a time or 7 at a time I think. You're still playing 20k hands.
you just get to play them 7x as fast for the most part.

This is all under "I think this is how it works" so someone/anyone (everyone??) smarter than me can feel free to correct me.


However, if you got up to playing 1k hands at a time somehow (on a REALLY big table) then this should increase your variance since a streak of the dealer catching 21's would really hurt you....while a streak of dealer busts would be just joyous for you.
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Old 11-24-2004, 07:32 PM
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Doing it by BJ is a 140xBonus wagering req. You do get some extra benefits, like the freeroles and things you can spend points on, but really, this is a terrible BJ bonus. Many better opportunities.
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Old 11-24-2004, 07:55 PM
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Default Re: Pokeroom Reload Bonus $150 MAX/15% -THANKS

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You're correct, I should have applied that all the time, but I backed off the more I lost. Meant to also include splitting and doubling down hands 11 and below when dealer showed 4-6.

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Even better would be to use a basic strategy chart:
http://wizardofodds.com/games/blackjack/

Makes it go quicker as well.
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