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Old 11-24-2004, 05:12 PM
77rules 77rules is offline
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Default I got creamed - did I deserve it?

I got slaughtered at this table, lost 25 BB's in 100 odd hands. When this happens I just get up and leave - I can't really tell if I'm being outplayed or outlucked. Tell me what you think.


Hand 1. SB is LA-P (VP$IP 75%), BB is LA-A (VP$IP 38%) and UTG is LA-P (VP$IP 41%).

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $1.
UTG calls, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="666666">6 folds</font>, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (9 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, BB calls, UTG folds.

River: (9.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">SB raises</font>, BB folds, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 13.50 BB
<font color="green">Main Pot: 13.50 BB, between Hero and SB.</font>


Hand 2. SB is TP-P (VP$IP 9%) and BB is sLA-A (VP$IP 23%).

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero calls, SB calls.

Turn: (6 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB calls, Hero calls.

River: (9 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 12 BB
<font color="green">Main Pot: 12 BB, between Hero, SB and BB.</font>


Hand 3. Button is sLA-A (VP$IP 23%).

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">Button raises</font>, BB folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, Button calls.

Turn: (6.25 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls.

River: (8.25 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls.

Final Pot: 10.25 BB
<font color="green">Main Pot: 10.25 BB, between Hero and Button
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Old 11-24-2004, 05:16 PM
SomethingClever SomethingClever is offline
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Default Re: I got creamed - did I deserve it?

Hand 1: Fine

Hand 2: Terrible flop call!

Hand 3: I probably don't 3-bet the flop. Turn bet is OK as semi-bluff with pair and 4-flush. Probably check the river.
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Old 11-24-2004, 05:26 PM
edthayer edthayer is offline
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Default Re: I got creamed - did I deserve it?

1. Perfect

2. Fold the Flop: You are behind, you have 2 jack outs (maybe). Two VERY questionable ace outs (in fact, I wouldn't even count them). 4 ten outs, only three of which are to the nuts, all of which are probably split pots.

The pot is small, just fold.

3. Tricky hand. I don't mind the aggressive play. I might check/call the river.
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Old 11-24-2004, 05:33 PM
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Default Re: I got creamed - did I deserve it?

Others have covered it fine.

#1 is fine.

#2 is a very very bad flop call.

#3 is pretty damned aggressive. I don't know that I 3-bet against a sLA-A here, but I don't know WTF he's coldcalling you with. Odd hand.

Rob
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Old 11-24-2004, 05:35 PM
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Default Re: I got creamed - did I deserve it?

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I don't know that I 3-bet against a sLA-A here,


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AJs is my guess.
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