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Old 11-19-2004, 03:26 PM
Phil Van Sexton Phil Van Sexton is offline
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Default Re: WinHoldem cheaters foiled

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it could place data mining software in jeopardy as well.

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Party was so concerned about data mining that they recently added the feature that writes hand history to disk as you play (or observe). Basically, they added a feature to help data miners. I severely doubt pokertracker is a concern of theirs.
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Old 11-19-2004, 03:58 PM
crockett crockett is offline
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Default Re: WinHoldem cheaters foiled

I must have worded it poorly. My apologizes. I didn't mean to imply that PT was a concern of theirs at this moment. Party will do ONLY what the money dictates. My concern was wether or not Party (or other sites for that matter) will face pressure from the "masses" to take away any and all advantages. The money will define the word "advantages."

The next time you walk into a Casino just stop for one second and turn around in a full circle. Rememeber your in the minority, that sea of people would definately be offended if they knew they were competing in a game and you were using a computer to mine data of their actions. Some would be so offended that they wouldn't want to go to that Casino anymore. So, what would the Casino do? Yup, make it really hard on you and invite the masses back to their new and improved Casino. The masses has more money than you and the Casino will follow the money.

Anyways, like I said this all sounds doomsday, but I'm also a realist, I'm sure PT is here to stay for at least awhile but I do believe if this "botting" becomes prevelant that it can definately effect my lifestyle and many others who spend time reading these forums.
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Old 11-19-2004, 04:06 PM
Greg J Greg J is offline
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Default Re: WinHoldem cheaters foiled

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My concern was wether or not Party (or other sites for that matter) will face pressure from the "masses" to take away any and all advantages.

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I understand your concern, but I think you are worrying about nothing. I study public opinion, and the "masses" generally don't take time to inform themselves about such things. Most casual players (fish) who play for a fun time becuase it looks cool on TV don't know Pokertracker even exists, and if they did, would not really care too much. If there were a popular outcry, them Party et al might try to do something about it. However, there will be no popular outcry about Pokertracker.
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Old 11-19-2004, 04:08 PM
Phil Van Sexton Phil Van Sexton is offline
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Default Re: WinHoldem cheaters foiled

If people are concerned about data miners, they can just change their screen name.
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Old 11-19-2004, 04:05 PM
prrthd prrthd is offline
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Default Re: WinHoldem cheaters foiled

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it could place data mining software in jeopardy as well.

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Party was so concerned about data mining that they recently added the feature that writes hand history to disk as you play (or observe). Basically, they added a feature to help data miners. I severely doubt pokertracker is a concern of theirs.

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Poker Tracker Pat emailed and talked to Party about getting the hand histories from the .hhf files and they said they did not have a problem with it. He works very closely with Party and he would never include anything in the program that would cause us to get in trouble. I am just a user of Poker Tracker by the way.
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