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Old 11-17-2004, 01:54 AM
hhboy77 hhboy77 is offline
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Default Re: What % of players who move up to 100 and 200 SNGs falsely do so?

the comment about the average 2+2'er not being an above average player is flat-out wrong. it's justified by saying that anyone who's bought a sklansky book is on 2+2 might be true, but anyone who's bought a sklansky book and taken the time to look on 2+2 is way above average.

think about all the people who have decided to play after watching the wpt or wsop.
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Old 11-17-2004, 02:02 AM
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Default Re: What % of players who move up to 100 and 200 SNGs falsely do so?

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the comment about the average 2+2'er not being an above average player is flat-out wrong. it's justified by saying that anyone who's bought a sklansky book is on 2+2 might be true, but anyone who's bought a sklansky book and taken the time to look on 2+2 is way above average.

think about all the people who have decided to play after watching the wpt or wsop.

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Agree. Someone who just plays poker for fun or once a is not the average guy we have on the forums. Someone who takes poker just above average would be on this forum. I mean he put the effort into reading some poker tips didnt he?

And for the person who reads a book, well that person is also prob better then the average joe who plays poker 1-2 a week
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Old 11-17-2004, 02:12 AM
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Default Re: What % of players who move up to 100 and 200 SNGs falsely do so?

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the comment about the average 2+2'er not being an above average player is flat-out wrong. it's justified by saying that anyone who's bought a sklansky book is on 2+2 might be true, but anyone who's bought a sklansky book and taken the time to look on 2+2 is way above average.

think about all the people who have decided to play after watching the wpt or wsop.

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How do you know it's flat out wrong? You are automatically corresponding having a deeper interest in poker with being more succesful at it. There are a lot of addictive gamblers that have a great interest at poker and aren't good at all, and Im sure there are plenty of them who post at this site. Tons of posts come from people with short term success, which can happen to literally any poker player out there, regardless of skill.

There are posters on this site who I think are flat out geniuses at the way they look at poker, and there are posters who I think offer very bad advice on a consistent basis. There are a ton in between, who tend to post when they do well and not to post when they aren't doing well. I think 2+2 is a close representation of the larger poker population.

However I won't say you are 'flat out wrong' because I don't have hard evidence.
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Old 11-17-2004, 02:25 AM
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Default Re: What % of players who move up to 100 and 200 SNGs falsely do so?

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You have to realize that this forum is not a random sampling of poker players. There are, of course, plenty of losing players, but this forum is full of avid poker players who want to learn and improve their game.

Bottom line, poker players who post here are going to be better than the average poker player.

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I think this is the biggest misconception on 2+2. You post on this board if you ever bought a Sklansky book and saw the website on it. I think 2+2 is an average make-up of poker players, with the luckier short term players more likely to be posting their results.

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I doubt if the "average" poker player ever buys a 2+2 book. Therefore, those that post here are above average.
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Old 11-17-2004, 02:33 AM
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Default Re: What % of players who move up to 100 and 200 SNGs falsely do so?

there's usually a very strong correlation between people being very keen on something and being good at it - or better than the average.

Nothing's set in stone, but I'm pretty sure the average 2+2'er is far ahead of the guy who's maybe watched the big shots on TV and decided to put a few hunnerd in his online poker account to emulate that
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Old 11-17-2004, 02:37 AM
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Default Re: What % of players who move up to 100 and 200 SNGs falsely do so?

A couple thoughts on why we don't see ROI figures for 500+ tourneys.

1. Most people burn out long before reaching that mark. I'm currently at 325 logged SNG's. I don't really know how I manage to keep playing some days. It just isn't fun to be a winning player, and really most people make more at their regular job (unless you're beating the higher lvl SNG's)

2. New players are alot more likely to post their stats. They want to know how they're doing, or more likely boast about their unsustainable rates (I once said I could make 3BB/hr playing 2/4 in a B&M lol).

3. Experienced players are less likely to post their stats as they are the same stats they had last week (no use posting the same ROI every week :0). There are fewer long term winners as well (due to burnout issues in #1). Also many may feel its not polite to brag/ gives others a distorted view of how easy SNG's are.
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Old 11-17-2004, 02:43 AM
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Default Re: What % of players who move up to 100 and 200 SNGs falsely do so?

This is an interesting post and I'll be watching to see what others have to say. I'm not too happy with my current 11% at 105+9's, but maybe I should be.
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Old 11-17-2004, 03:04 AM
J.A.Sucker J.A.Sucker is offline
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Default Re: What % of players who move up to 100 and 200 SNGs falsely do so?

People can beat the tournaments, but few can make what they say. This isn't to say that one can't do very well in the bigger SNGs. I maintain that I could teach someone to beat the big SNGs with no poker experience within a matter of weeks. The skills required to do so aren't that tough, IMO.
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