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hey guys, I just am starting to mix up my play with some tourneys so I thought I would post this hand.
Its the $215 Sunday on Stars. About 1000 out of 2000 left. I've been up and down from the 2500 initial to about 4000 and now I'm back to about a 2500 stack. Average is close to 4k. Blinds are 100/200. I'm in the BB with A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. 3 limpers and SB completes. Everyone has me covered. Almost every pot has been raised preflop so I'm happy to see a flop here. I check. Flop: A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Pot: ($1000) 1st question: SB checks. I ??? 2nd question: Assuming I check, 1st limper in MP(about 4k stack)bets $700. 2nd limper (biggish stack) calls. Folded to me. I ??? |
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I could be wrong here, but I don't see why you wouldn't push on the flop as soon as the SB checks to you.
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I would just push preflop, but if I didn't, there is no way I'm not pushing ont his flop
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One reason not to push is that there are not many free cards that can hurt your hand. It may be better to check and see how the action develops.
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How exactly are there not many free cards that can hurt your hand? You have no idea what your opponents holdings are and you only have top pair on a 4 flush board. I would be worried about any paint on the turn, and especially a diamond.
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yea I made a mistake. I didn't notice the two diamonds. I tried to edit my post to say don't pay any attention to what I just said but apparently it didn't show up.
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Another king, five, queen, ten, or even a jack could be killer as well. Not to mention any of the other cards in the deck that could give one of those limpers a set. Or a diamond. Actually, I think the only two cards in the deck that are clearly safe are the other two aces. The more I think about it, you definitly have to push the flop.
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Like I said, I didn't notice the two diamonds when I made my original post.
Suppose there was no flush draw though? With a short stack I would be happy to check and hope that someone with a raggedy ace, a king or 5 takes a stab at the pot. Wouldn't you agree? |
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With that many players in the hand, yeah, I guess that'd be a decent plan, though I still think it's close. It'd still be potentially disasterous to to have it checked though and let all those limpers see a free turn card. I definitely want all my money in on the flop even with a rainbow board.
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First, I want to ask do you think you are behind here? What hands could we possibly be behind? AK would have surely raised, as I would think AQ would have. A6 MAYBE for the first limper, but the second? And 66 is a possibility, but a long shot I would think. I would think we are ahead here, and want to make the cost to chase too high for someone holding second pair, or top pair weaker kicker, so given that:
Question 1) I think I bet about the pot size after the SB checks. Question 2) Once I check and get a bet and a call, I think I push and try to take it down here. |
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