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Old 11-16-2004, 11:13 AM
Erik W Erik W is offline
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Default AA preflop against limpers and then a raise

PP 10/20

I wonder if I should take the limpers money and reraise or limp and have the limpers pay another bet instead of them folding.

Flop
4 limpers, Button Raises
Hero on SB with AA
Either reraise or call and keep the limpers and risk getting
outdrawn later on.

I limped but I question the decision.

What would you do?

Is there any amount of limpers you'd prefer calling with or is it a plain bad idea?

thx guys
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Old 11-16-2004, 11:19 AM
Peter_rus Peter_rus is offline
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Default Re: AA preflop against limpers and then a raise

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Is there any amount of limpers you'd prefer calling with

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No. I prefer them go out or pay huge for their draws.
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Old 11-16-2004, 11:28 AM
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Default Re: AA preflop against limpers and then a raise

to answer that question exactly correctly you would need to know how many people who would call one, would also call two. I always raise here, and expect/hope for 2-3 of the 4 limpers to call 2 additional.
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Old 11-16-2004, 11:45 AM
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Default Re: AA preflop against limpers and then a raise

Easy re-raise, if they stay in they pay huge, if they go out you pick up a bet from each of them with no chance for them to beat you. Whatever they choose to do should be fine with you.
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Old 11-16-2004, 11:56 AM
Fabian Fabian is offline
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Default Re: AA preflop against limpers and then a raise

Slowplaying any hand before the flop is almost always wrong in pots with this many people. Your hand isn't strong enough to happily let say another 4 people in.

Also it is very probable that about 2 of the 4 limpers will call (certain players will almost never fold to another 2 bets after they have limped for example) the reraise, which would result in a pot with 1 extra sb in it (bigger = better with a strong hand) but 2 players less contesting it, which is great.

As I said, your hand is very very vulnerable with multiple opponents. Get them out if you can. Don't slowplay in multiway pots before the flop.
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Old 11-16-2004, 01:22 PM
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Default Re: AA preflop against limpers and then a raise

I think you re-raise and it is not particularly close.
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Old 11-16-2004, 01:38 PM
mplspoker mplspoker is offline
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Default Re: AA preflop against limpers and then a raise

This is an obvious re-raise and you should not be playing 10/20 if you don't know this. In addition, it is probably at least a 33% chance that it comes back to you capped after you 3-bet. This is called building a pot......
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Old 11-16-2004, 01:41 PM
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Default Re: AA preflop against limpers and then a raise

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Your hand isn't strong enough to happily let say another 4 people in. As I said, your hand is very very vulnerable with multiple opponents. Get them out if you can. Don't slowplay in multiway pots before the flop.

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Care to elaborate on this? What hand has more equity against 1, 2 or 9 opponents?
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Old 11-16-2004, 01:45 PM
Paluka Paluka is offline
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Default Re: AA preflop against limpers and then a raise

This is my last post in this thread, and I'm mostly just apoligizing for posting at all. The idea of not re-raising here is horrific beyond belief, and this whole thread should be moved to the beginner's forum.
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Old 11-16-2004, 01:59 PM
Festus22 Festus22 is offline
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Default Re: AA preflop against limpers and then a raise

You took the words right out of my head. I read Mid/High to gain insight into some of the more subtle and complex plays and thought processes from more experienced and accomplished players.

And when I read someone advocating 3-betting preflop with aces to thin the field because it doesn't play well multiway, I kind of get this incredulous feeling like I've been asleep for 10 years and probability and equity concepts were changed during that time.

I guess a better reply to that post would have been, HUH?
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