Suited connector poll

[slimpikkens]

Party 2/4 10-handed: I’m on my second orbit with no player reads. I joined this particular table because the average pot was 9BB…so far, table seems loose-passive.

Hero is CO with 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 raises, MP3 calls, Hero…

[Emperor]

Wow I fold any suited connector-3gapper where both cards are not both higher than an 8..unless it is Axs, or Kxs if I am frisky...

like I might call with J9s or QTs. I fold the lower ones because even if it is +EV it isn't much, and your variance goes through the roof with every marginal hand you play, even if it is +EV...

[private joker]

In SSH, the cutoff for cold-calling with suited connectors against a raise with at least 4 limpers is 76s. I'm inclined to agree. Fold 65s. (In fact, I'm not keen on cold-calling with 76s or 87s either).

[helpmeout]

I'm not calling this trash against a raise.

Its flush potential is poor because of the low value of the cards. I've had enough flushes beat to know that you have to devalue the flush value of this hand by a bit.

A trash two pair or trips has to be devalued as well for the same reasons.

I just dont see it being worth playing here for a raise even with position.

[Trix]

I voted call, one of the blinds will probably come along aswell, so it will be like 6:1 or so.

[nut case ace]

I like calling here. most likely all of the limpers are also gonna call the raise and maybe others will cold call behind you making a great pot before anyone's even seen a flop. I don't see how this call affects your variance too much since you are giving up one big bet to see a flop that, if pretty enough, could win you a big pot. with this hand it is easy to throw it away even if you flop top pair or something else very marginal. this might not be so easy if you flopped top pair with J9s even if you felt you were beat by a big pair or even outkicked. when you flop this hand right, either with a made hand or a draw, you are definitely going to get paid off by marginal hands or big pairs at this limit due to the size of the pot. anyone want to do the math to figure out the probability of higher flush if you flop the draw or made flush?

[nepenthe]

I am in the "call" camp for reasons mentioned above. That, and my VPIP at 3/6 is around 21.

[mtdoak]

This should be an easy fold, even in potentially a large pot.

If you get any sort of draw, pot odds are going to dictate a call, meaning you are going to be taken for at least 2 more BB in chasing. Shoot, even if you get an open ended SF draw, you're really only chasing the straight, because you can't be certain that people aren't playing with Kxs and you are going to call down to the river.

[sfer]

I don't coldcall with suited connectors.

[MAxx]

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I don't coldcall with suited connectors.

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i don't either, unless they are biggins. your holding just doesn't seem to hold enough value to me. i will concede that playing these cards in this spot, would not be a tragic mistake, if much of one at all. i dont enjoy coldcalling, feels slutty. i sit back and watch this hand for free. give me a pocket pair in this spot, and i am in.