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11-15-2004, 11:48 PM
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limit progression
I have played regularly now for 2+ years mainly online and in tourneys and am at the stage where I consistently win more than I lose. I also play in ring games...I started at 50c/$1 then moved up to $1/$2 where I began to consistently win. Feeling confident I moved up to the $2/$4 game and managed to lose approx $200 in about 10 hours of play (3 sittings). The two previous times I made a jump I also took a bit of adjusting time but not that much or with that sort of loss. The main thing I noticed was that the players actually seemed looser than at the lower levels (pacific 70% ave seeing flop) and as a result were around to catch draws regularly. Obviously the tourney ability to raise heavily when strong to prevent this is a factor but I was surprised how often people were willing to call with very little on, and pre flop.(I should also note that despite some of this obviously being game adjustment/leaks I also went through "one of those spells".Not making excuses...this probably only accounted for 25% of the total losses but its worth pointing out.)
Now, obviously one answer to the "what do I do about this?" question is stick to what youre winning but the master-plan was always to start low, win, and then use the bankroll to move up a level, start winning and so-on until I was playing "proper" poker ($15/$30 &$20/$40 limit). My results/returns ($1750 from initial $100 18 months ago) indicate that I am a pretty good player and I dont really want to abandon my larger strategy but I need to try and workout a way to navigate my way past this stumbling block. Having read some other posts I am tempted to move directly past the $2/$4 game to the $3/$6 or even higher on the basis that the sums involved should make the play go a bit more like it should. My worry is obviously that if thats not the case then my adjustment losses could cripple my bankroll and force me back down the limits. What do other 2+2ers think? is my rationale for limit skipping sound or would I be likely walking into a disaster? What other suggestions do people have for navigating my way profitably up the levels? All thoughts appreciated. [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 
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#2
11-15-2004, 11:50 PM
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Re: limit progression
(I added paragraphs at random for enhanced readablity)
I have played regularly now for 2+ years mainly online and in tourneys and am at the stage where I consistently win more than I lose. I also play in ring games...I started at 50c/$1 then moved up to $1/$2 where I began to consistently win. Feeling confident I moved up to the $2/$4 game and managed to lose approx $200 in about 10 hours of play (3 sittings). The two previous times I made a jump I also took a bit of adjusting time but not that much or with that sort of loss. The main thing I noticed was that the players actually seemed looser than at the lower levels (pacific 70% ave seeing flop) and as a result were around to catch draws regularly. Obviously the tourney ability to raise heavily when strong to prevent this is a factor but I was surprised how often people were willing to call with very little on, and pre flop.(I should also note that despite some of this obviously being game adjustment/leaks I also went through "one of those spells".Not making excuses...this probably only accounted for 25% of the total losses but its worth pointing out.) Now, obviously one answer to the "what do I do about this?" question is stick to what youre winning but the master-plan was always to start low, win, and then use the bankroll to move up a level, start winning and so-on until I was playing "proper" poker ($15/$30 &$20/$40 limit). My results/returns ($1750 from initial $100 18 months ago) indicate that I am a pretty good player and I dont really want to abandon my larger strategy but I need to try and workout a way to navigate my way past this stumbling block. Having read some other posts I am tempted to move directly past the $2/$4 game to the $3/$6 or even higher on the basis that the sums involved should make the play go a bit more like it should. My worry is obviously that if thats not the case then my adjustment losses could cripple my bankroll and force me back down the limits. What do other 2+2ers think? is my rationale for limit skipping sound or would I be likely walking into a disaster? What other suggestions do people have for navigating my way profitably up the levels? All thoughts appreciated.
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#3
11-15-2004, 11:52 PM
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Re: limit progression
you'll get flogged for starting another one of these posts without searching around for the (many) others like it...
but to summarize: the highest level of game you can beat profitably, you should play. however, if you can't beat (for example) 2/4, you're not going to be able to beat 3/6. as the limits get higher, so does the difficulty. bankroll is an important factor in determining what level you should play at, along with skill. did i miss anything?
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#4
11-16-2004, 12:07 AM
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Re: limit progression
I've also noticed that 2/4 play is generally a lot more aggressive than 1/2, which means those of us who fell into a weak/passive mode at the lower level have to adjust. I'm still working on finding the proper equillibrium on that (but, thankfully, haven't lost money doing so...yet).
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11-16-2004, 02:57 AM
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Re: limit progression
you'll get flogged for starting another one of these posts without searching around for the (many) others like it...
You mean the ones he started in at least two other forums?
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#10
11-16-2004, 03:15 AM
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Re: limit progression(for bisonbison)
Didnt know where it really fit which is why I multi-posted it....also wasnt prepared to spend that long typing and risk getting bumped straight away with no answer. Is that unreasonable?
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