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Old 11-10-2004, 10:36 AM
TheHip41 TheHip41 is offline
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All Marks against Hellmuth are jealousy, they know they couldnt beat him and if you could beat Hellmuth Ill be looking for you on TV next year

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I think I could beat Hellmuth in Limit Hold Em. Seriously, he advocated 3-betting with 44 in late postion. I don't think he's ever played on Party Poker [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

No Limit, Hellmuth is awesome, Limit, he gets his ass whooped. How many braclets outside of No Limit does he have?
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Old 11-10-2004, 11:18 AM
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sense...not sex sorry
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Old 11-10-2004, 12:18 PM
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I definitely agree, especially with many players, I would rather check AK (offsuit defs, maybe not with suited) and see a flop before betting further...
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Old 11-10-2004, 12:56 PM
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AK vs JJ. Assuming I know exactly what my opponent has I would choose JJ. The problem is that you do not know what your opponent has in most situations. If you know that your opponent has AK then you could play 22 as strong as you could play JJ or even QQ. In my view the problem with JJ is that it is sometimes very hard to lay down. For example if you were in a NL tournament in any position even in late position, there is a tendency for people to overplay the JJ. Lets say that you have JJ on the button and the blinds are 400-800 plus ante 50 and no callers. Lets also say you have slightly better than average chips with about 10 people before the money. You raise to 3000 and the BB who is the big stack at the table goes all-in.
My rational is that if I know he has AK I would say what the heck, He is willing to take the 50% chance so I guess I will take the chance especially since I am a slight favorite. The problem is that you don't know what he has. He may have AA, KK, QQ, an under pair, crap, AK, AQ, KQ, The only thing you can really beat on a consistent basis is under pair and crap. So now you are in a real pickle. The best advice I have read regarding JJ is that you should change the JJ into 88. This way you will not overinflate the value of the hand. This being said, I still like JJ but I play it carefully. Not a great hand to go all-in on. If knew I was going to have to go all-in I would choose AK.
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Old 11-10-2004, 11:16 PM
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Also keep in mind that his book is horrible.
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Old 11-11-2004, 04:12 AM
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Jacks. They return more money to me. But only just.
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Old 11-13-2004, 12:37 PM
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Doesn't it make alot more sense to look at $ wins rather than win % given that the hands play differently?
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Old 11-16-2004, 12:10 AM
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Doesn't it make alot more sense to look at $ wins rather than win % given that the hands play differently?

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Not all the time because you play the hands the different ways.
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Old 11-16-2004, 12:14 AM
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http://www.gocee.com/poker/HE_Val_Sort.htm
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Old 11-16-2004, 12:23 AM
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i would take AK over JJs.
The only way you can play jacks is to bet big so no one catches against you. With this you are likely to get lots of people out. AK you can slow play just to see if you catch on the flop. AK is alot easier to lay down if you don't catch and less likely to get stuck in a bad position. a queen on the flop would look horribly scary when you got jacks, even though you hpope no one called ur huge raise with Queen high. AK gives you more for your money.
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